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Author:  The One Ring Community [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  [*] Falling into the Shadow - by Beatrice
Category: Dioramas
Article Type: Project

Article Title: Falling into the Shadow
Author: Beatrice
Article Description: A large diorama featuring the Balrog & Gandalfs duel in Moria

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Author:  the one elf [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:05 pm ]
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Great work! I really like that water
and that photo where light comes from hole looks very very good :D
Author:  lightning2911 [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:13 pm ]
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i love it! very different than the usual dioramas and i especially like that you cover almost every little aspect in creating this one.

and i also love the photo with the light coming from above. well done!
Author:  TheBucklandBrewer [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:22 pm ]
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Excellent guide Beate! Lovely result! Amazing job you've done there! Glad to see it in the article library! Well done you!

;)
Author:  Dorthonion [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:10 pm ]
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I am searching for my jaw (that fell off about 10 minutes ago) and some adequate words... not only does this demonstrate original thinking and use of materials and techniques, it requires a heck of a lot of courage and determination to perform such drastic modification to a large and complex (and expensive!) miniature.

I dryfitted both of my balrogs before Christmas as I have something in mind. The fit of the parts wa disappointingly lousy, so hats off to Beate (and DB and a few others) for managing to overcome these obstacles and turn out something fantastic. The guide itself is comprehensive, very detailed, and tackles a difficult subject. The end result is fabulous.

10/10 in my book. Now, where is that dratted jaw...
Author:  eBob [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:55 pm ]
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Excellent - but I'm not sure why you chose to have Gandalf and the Balrog suspended from visible wires, when you could have suspended them from heavier wire rods attached to the back of the cave - and pointing forward - if you get me. This would have been a completely invisible method of suspending them.
Author:  BilboOfTheWhiteTower [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:22 pm ]
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Lovely diorama Beate!
Well executed and an all around excellent job!
Author:  fatty-bolger [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:27 pm ]
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Ebob wrote:
you could have suspended them from heavier wire rods attached to the back of the cave - and pointing forward - if you get me.


true, true Ebob but i would think that the cardbored box wouldn't be strong enouth to hold it, expaining the wires, maybe if it was a mdf or wodden box it then should work with the rod. over all great artical Beat and hopfully many more in the future.
Author:  Peregrin Took [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:52 pm ]
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Wow, that looks awesome! :shock: I like how you did the water and the lighting is just perfect in some of the shots. Looks like a screenshot from the film.

Interesting guide. :)
Author:  DurinsBane [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:55 pm ]
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The one thing that stood out for me within this guide, was the pure passion behind putting the whole thing together !
Never before in my 3 years here, have I seen a newcommer come along with such a fire for the hobby.
Progressing with painting skills can be a long and tedious journey, however Beatrice has come leaps and bounds since joining us.

The concept was huge and I can not recall anyone in the hobby undertaking such a bold project.

You did a great job Beate !
Author:  MacGothmog [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:42 pm ]
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Definetelly not an easy project, but you did a great job!
Big convertion in a BIG (and expensive!) model, fire, water, REAAAAALLY big cave... not all starters would start and finish one of those the way you did it! ;) Cheers for that.

Now, what's next? Even bigger project?
Author:  GuardianofLothlorien [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:46 am ]
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I searched in my dictionary and found no word to describe " ultra fantasticly amazed"......and seriously, I am, it's a great project.

But, like Mac, I am weak, and must ask what your next project is. :wink:
Author:  Beatrice [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:13 am ]
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you are all so kind... thank you so much for your nice (and funny) comments.
yep, now seeing this article finished I am astonished myself that I dared to dive into that huge project ... but when the brain is blinded by passion ... ;-)

I have to thank my both proofreaders - SamGamgee for the initial advises what to do better and DurinsBane to change my too long thoughts and improper expressions into correct English! :-)

@Dorthonion: LOL!
(found that jaw here in the abyss box trying to bite the balrog off the rope ... I throw it back over counry and channel... (sssssssssssssst.... catch it if you can...)

@Ebob: the tiny rope cannot be seen if the light is adjusted correctly. for the pics to show details or that you can see the scene at all I had to use more lights and make the pics a bit brighter, so it is visible now.

I also didn't want to drill inside both mini bodies...
and didn't know exactly where and how to hang them at first, I might readjust them, so I used the rope. Such I will be able to take the minis out and put them on a shelf if I want to (the box is very large and my vacant space in the flat limited)

Next project...? of course I am not telling you ... ;-)
it will be smaller! (okay, I have two in mind, one smaller and one, yep, a bit larger, rather higher than deeper...). The small scene I already started a thread with (Eowyn, Witchking). One member (you know that guy with that huge backlog painting guide in 2200 parts ...;-) ... gave me some ideas I have to work out ... and limit to a manageable project... (I am already watching fellbeast auctions on ebay...)

but first I have to paint some other minis. after a project taking so many days, I really missed the pleasant paintjobs on tinier figures.
Author:  DurinsBane [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:02 am ]
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I have to thank my both proofreaders - SamGamgee for the initial advises what to do better and DurinsBane to change my too long thoughts and improper expressions into correct English!


I hope you realise I had to take a week off work just to recover !

:wink:
Author:  Beatrice [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:43 pm ]
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ha, I bet, you were to curious about that article that you were only after to take at least a glimpse before it was published, and that your only worry was if your beloved balrogs were put in good light ;-). then you had to proofread it all on your own...

no, seriously I really owe you sth! do get proofreaders goldcoins as a compensation as well? ...
Author:  Viruk [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:39 pm ]
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Truly excellent article, undoubtedly one of the best I've ever read.

The final effect is simply stunning :shock:

This article will surely come in handy for me, as I plan to buy this model in the future and it will be great as a source of reference.

Thanks for submitting it, I admire the effort that you took to take so many great pictures and write such an excellent article. Congrats!
Author:  Son of Rohan [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:09 pm ]
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Wow what a great diorama... I like the balrog. He looks so goood ;) And the photos are very good. Also the technic to make the whater is very good. Gret work!!!
Author:  isengardener [ Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:59 am ]
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This one is fantastic! A lot of hartd working you did on this one and the job ain't wasted! Nice atmosphere especially with the photo of the small light and so on... Moire of these please!!! :lol:
Author:  Tobold Hornblower [ Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:27 am ]
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Goodness me, I managed to miss commenting on this incredible article! :oops:

It's a fantastic work, Beatrice, truly inspiring. I'm too scared to modify an orc's toe, and you tackled something like this, if that you gives you an idea. And that's not mentioning the painting, which is outstanding in it's own right. The lighting on Gandalf is particularly amazing for me.

I was one of those newcomers with no real passion DB speaks of. I suppose I'm no longer new, but I still don't have any passion. On the upside, I can always admire the work of those that do, and you certainly have it "in spades", as they say. :)
Author:  daoage [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:41 pm ]
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ahmm....WOW :shock:

this is an amazing project.
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