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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:03 pm 
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Okay, my question may seem stupid. When we say " I primed a model" what do we mean? I only know what priming is in relation to houses... lol. If I assume correctly it's something that hepls the paint from chipping away? If that's the case can you instruct me on the method of priming. I hate it when metal models laboriously painted start to lose flickers of paint. And the varnish, even the mat one, is just too shiny. :-X

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:09 pm 
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To prime a model is to give it an undercoat of paint that helps all the other layers adhere and prevents chipping, as well as giving you a solid base for the colors. Most prime with some sort of spray that bonds to the miniature, and you can prime a model in any color, although most tend to work from a black/grey/white base.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:39 pm 
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So if I prime a miniature black I obviously don't need to undercoat it afterwards correct? Can I prime a model that has already been undercoated, will it affect the prime in any way?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:49 pm 
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prime is an undercoat.If you spray prime a miniature you can start painting it when i dries.
Spray prime is better than brushing because spray leaves an even coat of undercoat and the detail of the model isnt affected.

Sorry for my english.
there are some videos on youtube about priming your miniatures right(like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe28Vlvl ... re=related)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:47 am 
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Prime and undercoat is the exact same thing in this hobby.

Paint it black (or white or whatever colour you prefer) and then start painting it as you desire.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:54 am 
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Primers aren't the same as any colour, a primer has a different chemistry to help it adhere to the model. The normal paint adheres better to a proper primer/undercoat than it does to the model itself.
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Thanks for your replies guys! So can I apply the primer on top of paint?
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Constantine wrote:
Thanks for your replies guys! So can I apply the primer on top of paint?

Nope. The whole point is that you clean up your figure, then prime it (because primer sticks better to bare metal/plastic than normal paint does) then paint it.

If you already have paint on the figure your options are to just continue, and hope it doesn't chip, or to strip it, prime it, and start over. You would put varnish over the paint once you're done to stop chipping.

I hope that helps... :)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:01 am 
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Ok, when preparing your models follow this process.

Cut them out of sprue
Clean up the flash and mould lines with a file.
Glue them into the base.
Buy the GW chaos black spray paint and undercoat the models with that
Paint them as you wish

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:29 am 
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So a Chaos black spray functions exactly as a primer and undercoat? And one more question, how can I strip the paint without harming the models?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:19 am 
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To strip them of paint, simply soak the minny in metholated spirits for a while, then scrub the paint off with a toothbrush. Just be careful with spears breaking and stuff when scrubbing.

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Thanks mate for your time and replies :dmf: :pippin:
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No problem man.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:46 pm 
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You can spray over painted models, it's only that it's a waste of detail. Also, I think methylated spirits eat plastics?

@Eruntalon, your English is fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:09 am 
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to strip paint of models you can use
1. non-acetone nail polish remove(acetone eats plastic be careful)
2. dettol
3.simple green
4. nail polish remover (acetone)only use on metal
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