450 pt / 650 pt mordor

Quinndalf · **Joined:** Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:34 pm **Posts:** 87

okay so i need help with my list

shagrat warleader

12 black guard

uruk-hai shaman with armour

and that leaves 140pts to fill up the 450 slot i also have to keep this list and add 200 to it for the 650 part i do also want to include the knight of umbar

thanks in advance quinndalf

Gwaryan · **Posted:** Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:02 pm

Those are quite odd points matches for games. Most people tend to play 500, 700, or 750pts.

Still, with another 140pts left on the first list, you could add in an Uruk-Hai captain and as many Mordor Uruk-Hai as possible. To take it up to 650 you could add in a few more, or potentially a banner, and then the Knight of Umbar on a fellbeast

Valadorn · **Posted:** Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:50 pm

If you want to use a nazgul, exchange it for shagrat. I would fill the rest of points with cavalry, for example sharku+5 warg riders. You must decide if you' re going to use those uruks or no cause it will be one second core in your army ( the other one is the black guard).

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:55 am

I'm guessing this is for the league finale? It is an escalation event hence the 450 to 650 limit. I'm sure Thermo (GBHL James) will grace us with more details soon.

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

Like SD said, if this is for league finale maybe you need to push for competitive, something like this maybe?

Mordor 450pts

Warband 1

Shagrat Warleader
5 Black Guard of Barad-dûr
6 orc warriors with spear

Warband 2

uruk hai shaman with armour
6 uruk hai crossbows

Warband 3

Mordor Orc Taskmaster
12 orc warriors with hand weapon(axe)

447 pts

for 650 add

Warband 4

Shade 100
6 orc warriors with hand weapons(axe)

Warband 5
Angmar Orc Shaman
4 orc warriors with hand weapons(axe)

total: 647pts

Lots of Fury for either uruk or orcs, some chances for a free might point back, and every single orc warrior is still very deadly with an axe wielding.
And of course, you some some nasty shade around to benefit your orc warriors with axes even more and some nasty punch of uruk croosbows to pierce enemy ranks...
And most important, you wont lack on numbers :)

for 450pts you got:
32models

at 650pts you got:
44 models

Valadorn · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:37 pm

@Galanur You made a great list for the 650 pts. Nice as always from what I see!

Galanur wrote:

Warband 2

uruk hai shaman with armour
6 uruk hai crossbows

Warband 3

But here, why should he use a shaman for 6 ranged uruks? I would use Vrasku. Also, check the bow limit

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

ohh right... well why the shaman?
Shaman is ment for not to go alone anyway and spare ponits cause it will fury also to the black guard and shagrat(since both are uruks)

Valadorn · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:27 pm

Galanur wrote:

ohh right... well why the shaman?
Shaman is ment for not to go alone anyway and spare ponits cause it will fury also to the black guard and shagrat(since both are uruks)

Btw now that it can be mentioned, do you ( or someone) believe that spending more points to use uruk pikemen than orc spearmen, only for the shaman's aura is worthing it? It costs 4 more points per model and you will have the fury + better overall stat line, but many less models. It depends on the situation i know, but if asked for a general advice?

Quinndalf · **Joined:** Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:34 pm **Posts:** 87

well i have come up with some ideas for instance givng the uruk shaman a warband of warg riders with shield and 5 with throwing spear to fill the 140 gap and having the knight of umbar on armoured horse and a orc shaman on warg, what do you think? and how would one play this army?

450 pt / 650 pt mordor

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