Arnor ~ 350p. list and I need your help :)

Rescrus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:32 pm

Hello.
I just completed a list for an army of Arnor. What do you think?

WB1 "Knights of Annuminas"
Captain of Dol Amroth with armoured horse; Lance;
5 Knight of Dol Amroth with armoured horse; Lance;

WB2 "The Last King"
Arvedui, Last King of Arnor
3 Ranger of Arnor
1 Ranger of Arnor with Spear
8 Warrior of Arnor

WB3 "Path of the Ranger"
Halbarad Dúnadan
2 Ranger of Arnor
2 Ranger of Arnor with Spear
8 Warrior of Arnor

Total Units: 32
Total Points: 500
Might Points: 8
Archer: 27 %
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Halbarad should represent the son of Arvedui, Aranarth.

What do you think got be a weakness?
I haven´t played with these models yet so I could really use some advice for the list and for the tactics. Also with Arnor in general.

Thanks, Rescrus

NarsilReforged · **Joined:** Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:13 am **Posts:** 316

Swap out Halbarad for Arathorn or mount Halbarad. And I think just normal Knights of Gondor would be better. You'd get more points in and they can be "Knights of Arnor" rather than elite "Knights of Annuminas". Go with something like 1 Captain of Minas Tirith w/ 8 Knights.

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

very interesting list.

I would may consider fielding prob 1 or 2 dunedain or ranger of the north myself, its a bit more might bump and you never know when its important to call heroic moves without spending your main heroes might, leaving them saved for tough fights :)

The knights of Annuminas looks very interesting indeed, but rather you take more rangers and boost up the line maybe? its 170pts that warband
Getting like malbeth to give a pseudo channeled fury 5+ save.

removing 1 arnor ranger or 1 warrior and

Warband of Malbeth could be like:
malbeth the seer
6 warriors of arnor

and 2 warbands of rangers of the north

or get the elven twins, its a nice bet as well :)

rigg1313 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:23 am

Love the idea of the knghts!!!!!!! Dol Amroth make the perfect substitute for the list!

Rescrus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:35 pm

Thanks for your response.

I worked on the list and this is the result:

WB 1
Captain of Minas Tirith with Horser, Lance, Shield
5 Knight of Minas Tirith with Shield

WB 2
Arvedui, Last King of Arnor
4 Ranger of Arnor
8 Warrior of Arnor

WB 3
Malbeth the Seer
2 Ranger of Arnor
6 Warrior of Arnor

WB 4
Ranger of the North

WB 5
Ranger of the North

Total Units: 30
Total Points: 500
Might Points: 8
Archer: 26,66 %

So, what do you think?

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

The list seems very nice indeed, although you should be carefull with Averdui, he dont have fate point and similar to theodred thats not a good thing on heroes.
The good side of him its his big stand fast which is very nice

The remain force seems nice.

You will have to trust your heroes to ensure they hold the line on this 1

Another good alternative for the list might be grey company, it relies most on rangers and its a force not to be underestimated, they also give you plenty choices for heroes around captain cost with alot might to boost as well has having way more bows...

Rescrus · **Posted:** Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:05 pm

So, I tried to make a list for the Grey Company.

WB 1
Halbarad Dúnadan
5 Ranger of Arnor
6 Ranger of Arnor with Spear

WB 2
Arathorn
5 Ranger of Arnor
6 Ranger of Arnor with Spear

WB 3
Ranger of the North with Horse

WB 4
Ranger of the North with Horse

WB 5
Ranger of the North with Horse

WB 6
Ranger of the North with Horse

WB 7
Dunedain

WB 8
Dunedain

500 points, 100% Bows, 30 models, 12 might

Any suggestions?

Rescrus · **Posted:** Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:10 pm

Guys, I need your help again.
This weekend starts a tournament an I got one army to choose, Arnor 350 p.
The tournament starts with hobbit rules.
Sooooooo, which one should I take?

First:

350 points, 4 Might, 26 models
Well, I like this army because you got many models (for the points), two cool heroes and some archers. On the other hand this army has no surprises like cav or magic. And next to Arvedui you got no second figther.

Second:

350 points, 7(!) Might, 24 models
So, in this list I got no Malbeth (no rescue dice) and I lost 2 Warriors of Arnor. But instead I gain 3 more Might points, a second fighter (for a captain he is quite good) and two surprise eggs who can take over objectives, support my infantry and annoy my enemy with shooting and skirmshing. I took three of them in my list at the last 500p.-tournament and the came out quite good. (thanks for the replies)

So which should I take? I'm really undecided but I think the second one could be the right choice. Or maybe not. ... help?

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

ya 2nd choice although sacrificing 2 of number and malbeth(sadly the pseudo channeled fury 5+... its just still 5+ 2 out of 6 rolls normally saves 1 guy so lets say of 26, 8/10 guys in total gonna be saved, unless you roll well though...
But seems kinda vital the bad side is that you need to keep the army closeby for that..

The list 2 also give you an attempt doing some cheese as those rangers of Arnor that hold no spear maybe you can cheese them and giving axes, they are very lightly armoured, dropping to defence 2 or 3 wont make much of a diference and will grant you punching power vs more heavily armoured foes like uruks or dwarves.

Seems obvious you cant have both of them in a go that easy unless you reduce even more the number model count and include malbeth instead of the captain...

You can go all way around and include allies, like rivendell or durin´s folk (if you wanna keep themed)

Gildor its an awesome guy for that same magic your asking and of the few good models that can actually transfix some 1..

Probably following the same line giving those rangers of the north on horse axes as well, 2A vs foot soldiers at S4 minimum up to 6 from a 1might point model might do big diference, specially if the might used will make sure it will assure a victory in the fight roll to win...

As for the warriors I dont advice you giving them shield since they are the hard kill guys i

Rescrus · **Posted:** Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:46 pm

Thank you. I think I will eliminate the first list.
Sooo lets make a third one:

Arnor

Warband 1

Warband 2

Warband 3

Durin's Folk

7 Might, 350 points, 22 models
What do you think?
EDIT: Or I steal the horses of the two RotN and give one to Halbarad and 2 Ranger get spears.
EDIT2: OORR No Khazad guards, 10 Dwarfs with Shield and 4 Ranger get spears.

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

you got some other alternatives...

that list seems good though

I also made up some lists on my own to see what you think

Arnor 350pts

List 1

Warband 1
Averdui, last King of Arnor
6 rangers of Arnor (3x with spear, 3x with hand weapon axe)

Warband 2
Halbarad on horse
5 rangers of Arnor (5x with hand weapon axe)

Warband 3
Gildor Inglorion
4x Noldorin exiles (2x with spear 2x with hand weapon axe)

total: 350pts

might: 7
models: 18

list 2

Warband 1
Halbarad on horse
5 rangers of Arnor(3x with spear)

Warband 2
Elladan and Elrohir with heavy armour on horse

warband 3
Ranger of the North on Horse with hand weapon(axe)

warband 4
Ranger of the North on Horse with hand weapon(axe)

350pts

might: 11
models: 10

Low model count but alot heroes and all mounted, in small games all this its very deadly :P

list 3

Warband 1

Halbarad
3 Rangers of Arnor

Warband 2
Elladan And Elrohir with heavy armour and elven bows
4 rangers of Arnor

Warband 3
Arathorn
3 rangers of Arnor

348pts
models: 14
might: 12

low body count alot of heroes...

List 4

warband 1
Halbarad
12 Rangers of Arnor

Warband 2
Gimli, son of Glon
8 dwarf warriors with shield

warband 4
Ranger of the north

348pts

You could make just hero way

LordElrond · **Posted:** Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:02 pm

@ Galanur: lists 3 and 4 are illegal as they have too many bows, and list 1 is rubbish because it has Gildor in it, and Gildor is not really good for anything. And list two looks okay, but is a bit low on numbers.

@Rescrus: your 2nd and 3rd lists are definitely the best two, but I would say that list 2 is better because it has more models, although I would say that Arathorn is many times better than Arvedui for only 5 points more, so if you can "find a way or make one" to get him in, he'd do lots better.

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

how this list is illegal? cause they all have bow doesnt mean you can use it all...and its grey company those groups in case youre not awared of grey company rules..

LordElrond · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:33 am

In list 3, you have 10 rangers and no rangers of the north or Dunedain, and in the Arnor contingent of list 4, you have 12 rangers to only 1 rotn, and you would need 3 RotNs if you wanted to field 12 rangers

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

aiaiai i need to pat you in the head.....

"As far as grey company rules say, you may opt to take a grey company force"
Its not demanding, of course will have to tell how many of those are gonna use bow from those who doesn´t but doesnt necessarly force you to build an entire grey company if you dont want to.

Rescrus · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:58 am

Galanur wrote:

aiaiai i need to pat you in the head.....

"As far as grey company rules say, you may opt to take a grey company force"
Its not demanding, of course will have to tell how many of those are gonna use bow from those who doesn´t but doesnt necessarly force you to build an entire grey company if you dont want to.

Well, I could also use Warriors of Arnor for the points of the rangers, if the cant use their bows... I gain fighters with better armor and spears for the same points.

Thank you guys, I didn't mean to start an argument like this.
@Galanur: Elves are sadly no option for me, I don't have these models.
The dwarf list is interesting, but the amount if models is to small for me. I like to have more or just a few less than my enemy.
@LordElrond: Yes Arathorn could be an option. I like Arvedui because if his special rule (important when you have Warriors of Arnor) but Arathorn is a better fighter. I will think that through.

Well, so it will be my second list. Maybe a little bit improved with something like Arathorn.

Greetz, Rescrus

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