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Author:  donuthare [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:16 pm ]
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hello,

im making helmsdeep, and I already bought some miniatures:

i have

heroes of helmsdeep
some different rohirrim
uruk hai
uruk hai siege
(i 'm going to buy baslista and xbows,

now i'm wondering. What kind of elfs i need? i saw lot of different elfs, which belong to helmsdeep? hope u can help me.

Author:  whafrog [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:14 pm ]
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If you're going by the movie, get a box of Galadhrim warriors, and Haldir. There are two Haldir models and profiles. The oldest profile gets 2 shots with a bow. The newer one is "defender of Helm's Deep", which gets only one shot, but has a different special rule. The profile for the former is in the One Ring book, the profile for the latter is in White Dwarf issue 355.

Author:  DainIronfoot [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:56 pm ]
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Personally I like the movie better for that scene... its more epic!!! :shock:

Author:  ellessar aragorn [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:53 am ]
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me too you will need gladrhim and haldir.

Author:  donuthare [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:19 am ]
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ah, i see. last alliance is in sauron battle, ty! gonna watch the two towers for the 9th time:)

Author:  Drumstick [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:46 pm ]
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Well I used the Last Alliance.. I know there not supposed to be there because thats 2nd age battles or something on those lines. And don't worry your not alone.. god knows how many times I've watched that film.

Author:  donuthare [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:05 pm ]
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the valar know:)

Author:  General Elessar [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:17 am ]
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How about some Ents? You know when the Uruk-hai run into the forest and all get killed by the Ents (they were actually Huorns but whatever).

Author:  donuthare [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:24 pm ]
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ents? i'm building helmsdeep, no isengard :) ents are quite expensive, i prefer cutting down some trees, and call them ents.

Author:  General Elessar [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:23 pm ]
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donuthare wrote:
ents? i'm building helmsdeep, no isengard :)


In the film (it might only be the extended version, I'm not sure), when Gandalf brings Eomer and the Riders of Rohan all the Uruk-hai run away. They all run into Fangorn Forest and are killed by the Ents/Huorns. A similar thing happens in the books.

Author:  Mouth-of-Sauron [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:54 pm ]
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Defenlty an extended version :rofl:

Author:  donuthare [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:04 pm ]
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ok, can be. i only have film 1 and 3 in extended version. two towers i have the old version. sigh:(

Author:  akûl-ak [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:43 am ]
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for the love of odin!!! get the extended edition!! also yes get some ents. would be good for re-enactment...but then again on second thought just buy loads of terrain tree's and do them up abit. cheaper and more true to the film/book. also i would also say galadrim not only because they look far better than the last alliance but also they look more like the ones from helms deep. but funny enough in the books the elves werent in helms deep. they went off to try take some tower cant remember which one. but yeah some reason peter jackson wanted it there so he put it there.

Author:  General Elessar [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:03 pm ]
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akûl-ak wrote:
but funny enough in the books the elves werent in helms deep. they went off to try take some tower cant remember which one. but yeah some reason peter jackson wanted it there so he put it there.


Dol Guldor? I think that was long before the Battle of Helm's Deep.

Author:  ShadowMaster26 [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:42 pm ]
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akul-ak is right, Sauron puts Dol Guldur back into operation during the War of the Ring to attack Lothlorien and Mirkwood. You may be thinking of the Necromancer thing at the same time as The Hobbit.

Author:  General Elessar [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:49 pm ]
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ShadowMaster26 wrote:
akul-ak is right, Sauron puts Dol Guldur back into operation during the War of the Ring to attack Lothlorien and Mirkwood. You may be thinking of the Necromancer thing at the same time as The Hobbit.


Yep, my bad. I got a bit mixed up.

Author:  akûl-ak [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:37 pm ]
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yeah thats it. haldir and his elves never showed at helms deep apparently. but they went to go crush dol goldur..for the second time!! lol. first time was in "the hobbit" when the order of wizards took on the necromancer. it is a pity tolkein didnt include that story in with the hobbit. i know its not crucial to the story...but it would have been a nice sidestory you know? although apparently its in the book "the lost tales" will have to pick that up soon. although if you think about it. if aragorn had slain grima would there have even been a helms deep? and you should have some common sense to block a damn drain -_-. fair enough its the first time explosive devises were used..but come-on..seriously...and also it never says why the dwarfs never went to help out...through the ENTIRE quest. or did they? havnt finished the book so wouldnt know from there.

Author:  General Elessar [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:44 pm ]
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akûl-ak wrote:
and also it never says why the dwarfs never went to help out...through the ENTIRE quest. or did they? havnt finished the book so wouldnt know from there.


The Dwarves, the ones in Erebor anyways, were too busy defending their own homes.

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