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| Author: | eorlen [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
hi guys, this is my very first post on here so hi! Here is my basic rohan list i have gone for a mixed force so here it is Eomer on horse eorling (captain) shield 4 riders of rohan throwing spears 4 riders of rohan ( able to shoot) 4 riders of rohan warrior of rohan with banner 7 warriors with shields 7 warriors with bow 8 warriors with hield and throwing spears 36 models 11 bows 500pts so what do you think, i might wap out some of the footsloggers for rohan royal gaurd any other advice, also im planning to use my throwing weapons A LOT is this that sound a tactic (has been a long time i havent played since RotK edition was released Thanks |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Hi, welcome to the game! First, if you read some of the other Rohan threads you'll see it's pretty much accepted that an all-Rohan army is difficult to play. That doesn't mean it won't be fun though. Ways to get around Rohan's weaknesses include allying with Grey Company or Lothlorien for some spears and better archery. Woses also make good allies. But if you want an all Rohan force, you might replace the banner and WoR w/bows with RRG and other warriors so all your riders can shoot (you paid for the bows, might as well use them). Banners are overpriced IMHO. A couple mounted RRG couldn't hurt, though probably don't fit into 500 points. Since you're taking a normal captain, you might consider taking Grimbold instead, he lets you upgrade your WoR to higher strength (for a point cost). His profile is on GW's site under the White Dwarf archives (you have to register and login, but it's free) in a PDF call Rohan Reinforcements. |
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| Author: | eorlen [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
ahhh awesome, idont have the money to ally at the moment though i was considering allying with some rangers of gondor, because i can take a cheap hero (damrod) and the get very good shoot and spears is this viable? also is each ally segment part of the 33% bowsrule? ( i know this is the wrong forum but just came to me) yeah, RRG are a definate add in , but ill run this army while i paint up and so on  Thanks for the advice though (so friendly here )
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| Author: | The Horde Lord [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Yes, all "segments" (I don't remember the correct word) of your army need to follow the 33% bow rule. |
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| Author: | eorlen [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
thankyou DAMN that means id need warriors of minas tirith too,  and i dont like them much ok thanks though allying with rangers wont work then hmm but i dont see gondor and elves working together much and i like things to be fluffy and work according aswell |
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| Author: | eorlen [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
* rohan and elves my bad |
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| Author: | General Elessar [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Woses work well with Rohan, like Whafrog said. They all have spears which is very useful, and they're all armed with blowpipes. Even better, the blowpipes don't towards the 33% bow limit, so you can have as many as you want. |
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| Author: | Gildor Inglorion [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Plus their "Stalk Unseen" ability means that their D3 isn't an issue against enemy bowfire if they're supporting a line of shieldmen. Assuming you have rangers, why not just use them as Rangers of Arnor and ally with Grey Company like whafrog suggested? You'd only have to get a blister of Rangers of the North. "Fluff-wise" that isn't too bad--it isn't hard to imagine an a roving band of rangers in the Enedwaith allying with a Rohirrim army... |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Gildor Inglorion wrote: Assuming you have rangers, why not just use them as Rangers of Arnor and ally with Grey Company like whafrog suggested? You'd only have to get a blister of Rangers of the North. "Fluff-wise" that isn't too bad--it isn't hard to imagine an a roving band of rangers in the Enedwaith allying with a Rohirrim army... Especially with Theoden's childhood memory of Aragorn riding with his father's host. |
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| Author: | spuds4ever [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
I quite like the army. It's a good begginer army but I agree with Whafrog that you'll probably need support if you're a begginner as most other shield walls will have spears and will betough to beat with no spears. Grey company would be a good choice as you already have some rangers. I would also drop the banner in favour of eowyn as you need some standfast for you're infantry and some extra might too. |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
He already has a captain + Eomer, at 500 points he probably doesn't need Eowyn too. |
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| Author: | Pinky Beecroft [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
A random interjection here. Are Ents any good? Could you ally in some Ents with a Rohan army and would it be worthwhile? Not suggesting it for this army but I was just curious as I started collecting Rohan with an idea to ally some Ents just for the hell of it. I don't have any of the rule books yet so be gentle 
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| Author: | whafrog [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
First problem is Ents aren't heroes, only Treebeard is. You need him to ally with, and he's very expensive already. Second problem is they're like trolls...expensive arrow magnets (though pretty tough to bring down against mostly S2 bows). So they're more suited to scenarios than random battles. We have a house rule that all Ents count as heroes, which makes them easier to include, but we only recently tried that and I haven't had a lot of experience with it. |
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| Author: | eorlen [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
ok, where can i find rules for woses ae they up on the GW site? and id rather ally in woses than grey company because eomer did ride with some woses on the way to pelennor. so yaaay fluff works for me and im guessing that rohan and the woses got on well in the fourth age. so anyway. swap out bow warriors and banner maybe for woses? is there a hero i need to take for them? thanks so much this is all really helpful
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| Author: | whafrog [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Woses are in the Return of the King journey book. There is a box set you can buy that includes Ghan-buri-ghan and 9 woses. They're all metal, so a bit pricey, but I found them fun to paint. You'll need to replace your Rohan captain with ghan-buri-ghan to be LOME legal. |
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| Author: | eorlen [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
thanks found the basic stats and so on for woses so heres my new list ( i hope this floats) eomer horse ghan buri ghan 8 riders of rohan 4 riders of rohan with thriowing spears 1 RRG horse 7 warriors of rohan shield 8 warriors of rohan with throwing spears and shield 2 rohan royal gaurd 7 woses 500 on the dot i didnt give the RRG throwing weapons so i had some nice unique conversions, also to fit in one extra woses warrior i think this is LOME legal but might have miscalculated :S if its not legal ill just restrict what riders can shoot i guess anything massively wrong with this list ? ta |
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| Author: | Gildor Inglorion [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
I like it! Very thematic  One minor thing... the 33% bow limit is calculated separately for each faction of the army so your Rohan contingent is a little over the limit (max is 10, you have 12). You could either just restrict which riders can shoot (as you said), or you could convert a couple riders to represent Outriders (they're heros so they don't count towards the limit). |
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| Author: | eorlen [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
awesome but arent outriders way more expensive, i think i will just limit who can shoot but yaaay thanks for saying its good  im all excited now! to the shop for the woses box |
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| Author: | RangerofTheNorth [ Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Me personally I wouldnt take any on foot. The warriors of Rohan are weak at best and cant rank up. I would go all mounted, take Gamling with the banner, and Erkenbrand or Eorl on horse. Or Eomer, Eomer's solid. I'll toss in Theodred at a higher points game but he has low fate, so not a very durable option for smaller, more vicious games. |
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| Author: | Gildor Inglorion [ Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rohan 500pts first list (SBG) |
Why Gamling with banner? In a game this size, I don't think you would get your points worth from the banner... I guess it's personal preference, but getting rid of the infantry would drastically reduce numbers, plus the fact that Riders of Rohan aren't exactly phenomenal cav to begin with. |
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