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Author:  Thecow [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

How in the world are you supposed to deastroy the dwarves??
Last game i played they destroyed me, prelast they destroyed me :-X in 3 days i play opponent again and i need help.
heres my army list

general:easterling captain with halbered
3 pikes 4 swords 4 bows

captain with halbered
3 pikes 4 swords 4 bows

allies: uruks

1 captain
1 troll

Please help me.Also, I prefer not to change the list.

Author:  Draugluin [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

What's the pt value? I find bows to be next to useless against dwarves, you need a 6/4+ to wound, so you only have a 1 in 24 chance to kill one. I would switch them out for more pike and swordsmen. Also make sure that you take the Black Dragon upgrade, it's definitely worth taking to tie a fight instead of losing it. I find Dragon Knight's a pretty good against dwarves, but they aren't necessary. Also lose the halberds, they aren't that good on heros. Since you already have an Isengard hero, bringing in some berserkers would be a good idea.

Author:  John Wayne [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

Its a 500pt army. I would say ditch a 105pt troll for uruks and berzerkers. Upgrade the captain with heav armour, shield.

Author:  Lord Hurin [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

This:

Thecow wrote:
Also, I prefer not to change the list.


is going to make things rather difficult. You see, your army doesn't cater at all to the best tactics to use against Dwarves. Dwarves are slow and rather expensive, but very heavily armoured. Because they have no spears, they find it difficult to get many models into a fight. You, however, are employing two of the three armies in the game that can use pikes. You need to outnumber him in models and bring those numbers to bear against his unsupported and slower Dwarves. To that end, I'd suggest dropping the Isengard contingent altogether and adding more Easterlings with spears. Something like this:

Warband 1:
Amdur
12 Easterlings; 4 with shield, 8 with spear and shield

Warband 2:
Easterling Captain with shield
12 Easterlings; 4 with shield, 8 with spear and shield

Warband 3:
Easterling Captain with shield
10 Easterlings; 3 with shield, 7 with spear and shield

That would come to 495 points and give you enough numbers and spear support to be in a better position against Dwarves.

Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

There are 4 armies with pikes Mr Hurin: Easterlings, Isengard, Dol Amroth and Galadhrim.

But yes Hurinhave the right idea. Your list is too badly constricted. trie something like hurin's list which is really strong 8)

Author:  Lord Hurin [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
There are 4 armies with pikes Mr Hurin: Easterlings, Isengard, Dol Amroth and Galadhrim.

But yes Hurinhave the right idea. Your list is too badly constricted. trie something like hurin's list which is really strong 8)


Ah, I forgot about the Guards of the Galadhrim Court! They came out while I was taking a year or so break from the hobby. :oops:

Author:  Thecow [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

Thanks for all the help guys!! I changed my army to what Lord Hurin said and it helped a lot!Also I ditched the troll so im good.

Author:  Thecow [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

Thanks for all the help i powned darves big time.

Author:  Constantine [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

Damn, now we have to find a Dwarf list to counter your list, cause the fat ones must always emerge victorious. :twisted:
In a more serious line, do you remember the list he was using?

Author:  Thecow [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Big,fat mean, chubby dwarves

Constantine wrote:
Damn, now we have to find a Dwarf list to counter your list, cause the fat ones must always emerge victorious. :twisted:
In a more serious line, do you remember the list he was using?


Sorry. I forgot since I haven't played him a long time.But I do remeber he had Dain Ironfoot and Gimli with elvencloak.

(Personally I think that Gimli was a waste of points since I squished him with the troll :-D )

But why must the fat ones emerge victorius why not give the skinny ones a win or two once in a while?

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