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750pts Umbar themed army
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Author:  Da Great MC [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  750pts Umbar themed army
Warband 1 12/12

The Knight of Umbar
4 Corsair of Umbar with Spear
2 Corsair of Umbar with Bow
4 Corsair Reaver
2 Corsair Arbalester

Warband 2 12/12

Dalamyr, Fleetmaster of Umbar
4 Corsair of Umbar with Spear
2 Corsair of Umbar with Bow
4 Corsair Reaver
2 Corsair Arbalester

Warband 3 12/12

Corsair Captain with Shield

4 Corsair of Umbar with Spear
2 Corsair of Umbar with Bow
4 Corsair Reaver
2 Corsair Arbalester

Warband 4 12/12

Corsair Bo'sun
4 Corsair of Umbar with Spear
3 Corsair of Umbar with Bow
4 Corsair Reaver
1 Corsair Arbalester

Now all I have to do is find me some Arbalesters 8)
Author:  SuicidalMarsbar [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750pts Umbar themed army
Solid list, but you do know that Harad/Umbar have a 50% bow limit right? So you could get way more arbalesters/bowmen into this list ;)
Author:  JamesR [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750pts Umbar themed army
My only critique if you will is I also think you should include more bowmen, especially Arbalesters. Those pavise shields (spelt correctly?) are pretty beast. I know you can't move and shoot with them but they are a pretty devastating combo of defense and killing power
Author:  -Bolg- [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750pts Umbar themed army
50% bowlimit is only with the harad models from the farad&umbar list.
good list, take more abalasters and put the knight of umbar whatever on horse (armoured if possible) becouse that makes him a 10 times better combat hero.
If its possible take him on fell beast, to hurl moddels.

Bolg
Author:  Grungehog [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750pts Umbar themed army
If you don't go down the 50% firepower route do consider another themed unit, castellans of umbar, they are if given a war horn elves with heavy armoiur, shield and happen to cause terror
Author:  JamesR [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750pts Umbar themed army
I also wanted to add don't remove your regular archers with the Arbalestors. They make a great combo.

Think about it, the one advantage enemy archers (namely elves, it's best to always try and figure how to counter them as they are the Gold Standard for archers) have over the crossbow-men is that they can move and shoot in one turn. However if you have both regular archers with the pavise-men you can move and shoot as well, just move the pavis wielding troops in front of the regular archers and fire over their shoulders. That way the enemy archers cannot easily return fire on the archers that shot them. And unless they high-tail it and run they will be devastated in the following turn by the combined fire of cross-bows and regular bows.

I hope that makes sense lol

Edit: here's a diagram that I hope helps to explain the above strategy (Aragorn being the reg archers, Gimli the crossbow-man as Legolas the enemy)
:aragorn: :gimli: ____________ :legolas:
:aragorn: :gimli: ____________ :legolas:
Author:  Bilbo [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750pts Umbar themed army
SuicidalMarsbar wrote:
Solid list, but you do know that Harad/Umbar have a 50% bow limit right? So you could get way more arbalesters/bowmen into this list ;)


The "Scorpians Sting" special rule only applies to Harad troops (Haradrim Warriors and Raiders, Watchers of Karna, Serpent Gaurd and Raiders and Abrakhan Guard.) you can use it with pure Harad troops but not Far Harad and Umbar, so you can field 50% bows (within pure a Harad warband) but not cross bows.
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