I think it depends on various things but personally (and due to the models at my disposal) I'd use erkenbrand & red shields mainly.
I'll think of some mock warbands and post them later today if that helps.
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| Author: | rigg1313 [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
Has anyone used/seen or have an idea about making an all or near all Good Cavalry Army that would still be effective in tournaments? I was thinking along the lines of Rivendell Knights and Dol Amroth knights with Imrahil or would other cavalry like Minas Tirith Knights, Rohan, Galadhrim better a bet? |
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| Author: | halauas [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
I would go with rohan as they have many cheap heroes to use their might pool and also cheaper units to keep the unit count balanced. I have only used this army against home tournament and it won every match (but not in a real tournament) Eomer knight of Pelenor -armored horse 3X Sons of Eorl (this is the hammer of your team, with 4 str and plenty of attacks followed by a powerfull hero) Ekrenbrand -horse X10 Riders of Rohan -all westfall redshields (having 4 fight value will help you keep the hammering going since cavalry armies cant afford loosing ties) Gamling -Rohan Royal standard -horse X6 Rohan royal guards -all with horses -3 with throwing spears (this can be the anvil of your team with better def and also gamlings banner to keep might points flowing all the game,never engage him in a fight) X2 Captain of rohan -heavy armor -shields -horses X8 Rohan outriders -horses (use them as hit and run to enemy flanks with their bows) x9 Riders of rohan -1 banner -all with horses =41 models, 12 might (to use them for heroic moves mostly) good archers for hit and run good str and plenty of heroes |
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| Author: | Lord of Winterfell [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
I think it depends on various things but personally (and due to the models at my disposal) I'd use erkenbrand & red shields mainly. I'll think of some mock warbands and post them later today if that helps.
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| Author: | rigg1313 [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
halauas wrote: I would go with rohan as they have many cheap heroes to use their might pool and also cheaper units to keep the unit count balanced. I have only used this army against home tournament and it won every match (but not in a real tournament) Eomer knight of Pelenor -armored horse 3X Sons of Eorl (this is the hammer of your team, with 4 str and plenty of attacks followed by a powerfull hero) Ekrenbrand -horse X10 Riders of Rohan -all westfall redshields (having 4 fight value will help you keep the hammering going since cavalry armies cant afford loosing ties) Gamling -Rohan Royal standard -horse X6 Rohan royal guards -all with horses -3 with throwing spears (this can be the anvil of your team with better def and also gamlings banner to keep might points flowing all the game,never engage him in a fight) X2 Captain of rohan -heavy armor -shields -horses X8 Rohan outriders -horses (use them as hit and run to enemy flanks with their bows) x9 Riders of rohan -1 banner -all with horses =41 models, 12 might (to use them for heroic moves mostly) good archers for hit and run good str and plenty of heroes I am definitely if I go down this path grabbing erkenbrand and the knight of the pelennor they are simply beast sculpts and models in combat! I am less convinced on gamling though. I wouldn't mind mixing in some other armies cav as well especially Dol Amroth as they after the war of the ring had a close bond with Rohan through a bunch of marriages. Also Rangers of the north for the extra might. Lord of Winterfell wrote: I think it depends on various things but personally (and due to the models at my disposal) I'd use erkenbrand & red shields mainly. I'll think of some mock warbands and post them later today if that helps. Yes please if you could, I don't have erkenbrand, knight of the pelennor (only regular eomer), sons of eorl. I do however from rohan have 4 royal guards and 10-12 riders with eomer. I also have these models mounted - 15 Minas Tirith Knights, 2 banners, Boromir, King Ellesar and Faramir. - 14 Knights of Dol Amroth, 2 banners, Imrahil and a Captain. - 6 Galadhrim Knights (1 captain, 1 banner), Legolas - 6 Rivendell Knights (1 captain, 1 banner) - Armoured Glorfindel - Gandalf the White - 2 rangers of the north If anythings a must i will buy it. (like erkenbrand haha) |
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| Author: | LordoftheBrownRing [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
I'd say you can mix some Doo Amroth yeah and like those guys said Rogan is the way to go. Cheap points wise. Rendell is good but tough |
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| Author: | Dr Grant [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
We took this all mounted 1000 point Rohan army to Doubles last year along with quite fluffy allies (Radagast on horse and 2 eagles). It wasn't meant to be competitive or really powerful but it looked awesome, was great fun to play and performed pretty well (won 2 out of 5 games and came fairly close to winning the other 3). Radagast’s Alliance Warband 1 Leader - Radagast, Sebastian,Horse Great Eagle Great Eagle Rohan Warband 2 Eomer, Knight of the Pellenor, armoured horse 2 Mounted Royal Guard with Throwing Spears 2 Westfold Redshields 1 Westfold Redshield with Throwing Spear Warband 3 Erkenbrand, horse 2 Westfold Redshields with Throwing Spears 3 Westfold Redshields Warband 4 Theoden, armoured horse, heavy armour, shield 2 Mounted Royal Guard with Throwing Spears 2 Westfold Redshields 1 Westfold Redshield with Throwing Spear Warband 5 Eowyn, shield, armour, horse 2 Mounted Royal Guard with Throwing Spears 2 Westfold Redshields 1 Westfold Redshield with Throwing Spear 27 models Break Point - 14 25% - 7 left alive Our plan was generally to use our superior movement (the tables were 6x4 which helped) to skirt all the way around the enemy and make a ring whilst shooting at them from a safe distance. Once the ring was complete we'd charge in from all sides to prevent spear supports and counter charges scuppering us. As with any plan it's easy to say but much harder to do but it worked really well in one of the games we won and came close to succeeding in another 2. Rohan are good because they can get a lot of cheap Might on the board. You'll notice the warbands are small at only 5 warriors each but I find this optimal for cavalry to make sure they are all in range of their captains' Standfast and Heroic Actions. Radagast is a great buff for Rohan as his Chanelled 12" Terror bubble can stop a lot of counter charges. Also, there are normally a lot of monsters at 1000 points and their Hurl attacks can be a disaster for cavalry armies, Immobilise can help to minimise that impact really well. The Eagles are just good fun to use and give you some F7, Brutal Power attacks and fit in well with the manoeuvrability theme. Above all, tons of fun! If you wanted to be more competitive then you could think about swapping an Eagle for 4 Sons of Eorl or drop 1 Redshield with Throwing Spear and replace 4 Royal Guard with Sons of Eorl with the saved points. Thermo has been doing really well with his all mounted Rohan army recently and actually came second in a GBHL tournament yesterday  I have no doubt that when he sees the title of this thread he'll be up for offering his thoughts. His force works well at 500 points and there's no real reason it shouldn't scale up (although he'll need to find some more Sons of Eorl!), the increased number of Monsters and Wizards (Sorcerous Blast) would hurt him at 1000 but I still think it would be quite competitive as he's a good player and understands how to use cavalry well.
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| Author: | rigg1313 [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
Dr Grant wrote: EDIT: please trim your quotes to only the essentials, thanks. As it looks then rohan and especially Red Shields and Sons of Eorl are the way to go!!! Thanks for the input! Thats really impressive for him with only mounted Rohhhaannnnnnn!!!  Whats your opinion on Beregond mounted as a cheap deployment drop? His the same points as a mounted Ranger of the North except with one higher defence and an elf bow but with one less courage. |
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| Author: | LordoftheBrownRing [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
He sounds good like that to me. Profile works. |
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| Author: | halauas [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
halauas wrote: EDIT: please trim your quotes to only the essentials, thanks. on my games gamling worked really well as i didnt let a single priority slip the whole game (heroic moves when needed) and if you want to play as hit and run you have to keep your might pool up. Still if you like dropping him, you can replace with a captain of gondor and some gondor knights (in place of the simple riders of rohan) as lances are very powerfull, or even elladan/ellrohir and some rivendel knights to have even higher fight value around. As much as i love knights of dol amroth (and they are my favourite) they are way too expensive for a whole cavalry army, they serve better as support/flaking along with foot armies, because you need a high model count for a cavalry army. |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
I actually was going to go against the grain and say an all mounted Harad force. I know you listed off only good armies but I'm working on an all mounted Harad with Raiders, Serpent Guard and Camel Riders. Lots of lances and plenty of bow shots |
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| Author: | rigg1313 [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
JamesR wrote: I actually was going to go against the grain and say an all mounted Harad force. I know you listed off only good armies but I'm working on an all mounted Harad with Raiders, Serpent Guard and Camel Riders. Lots of lances and plenty of bow shots That would be something to see!! And I've actually got suladan, a chieftain and a Mahud king all mounted plus 6 camels, 10 raiders, 5 serpent guards. Throw in a mumak and that would be about 1000 points I'd imagine?! |
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| Author: | LordoftheBrownRing [ Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1000pt Effective All Cavalry Army |
Awesome idea James I thought that before as I have Suladan 12 raiders 3 serpent a Mahud king and 4 camels |
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