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650 Elves and 1000 Terror Harad and Umbar
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Author:  NarsilReforged [ Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  650 Elves and 1000 Terror Harad and Umbar
Hey guys. Here are some lists I came up with for upcoming tourneys. Tell me what you think.
650 Elves:
W1:
Erestor (Leader)
7 High Elves with Shield
4 High Elves with Bow and Spear

W2:
Thranduil
4 Wood Elves with Spear
2 Wood Elf Sentinels
1 Wood Elf with Bow, Spear, Banner and Elven Cloak
5 Wood Elves with Bow and Spear

W3:
Rumil
8 Galadhrim with Shield
4 Guard of the Galadhrim Court




1000 Harad and Umbar option 1:
W1:
Knight of Umbar on Fellbeast
6 Castellans of Umbar
2 Haradrim with Spear
4 Haradrim with Bow and Spear

W2:
Golden King
5 Castellans of Umbar
2 Haradrim with Spear
4 Haradrim with Bow and Spear

W3:
Haradrim Taskmaster
6 Half Trolls
2 Haradrim with Spear
4 Haradrim with Bow and Spear

W4:
Suladan with Horse
5 Half Trolls
2 Haradrim with Spear
4 Haradrim with Bow and Spear




1000 Harad and Umbar option 2:
W1:
Knight of Umbar on Fellbeast
8 Castellans of Umbar
4 Watchers of Karna with Bows

W2:
Golden King
8 Half Trolls
4 Watchers of Karna with Bows

W3:
Haradrim Taskmaster
12 Haradrim with Spear

W4:
Suladan with Horse
11 Haradrim with Spear and Bows
1 Haradrim with Spear, Bow and Banner

So tell me which of the two evil armies you prefer and what you think about the elf force. Any C&C welcome.
Author:  Barrel Rider [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 650 Elves and 1000 Terror Harad and Umbar
Well I can't help you with the elves as I'm not in possession of the book and have never played with them. But I can give comment on the Harad so here we go!
Option 1 has 50 models, a break point of 25, 16 shots a turn and 10 Might. It has very solid Hero choices and as long as you are fighting a close enemy you should fair alright. It is a solid list and if I changed anything it would be minor... Maybe try and max out your bow limit (Harad excel at that). You could get the points for this by taking Abrakhan Guard in Warband 2 instead of the Castellans. They are just as good and their special rule is really useful with spear support!
Option 2 is 52 Models, 26 Break Point, 20 Shots a turn and 10 Might. This list is slightly odd as the Watchers of Karna seem to be in your two combat orientated Warbands. Not that it matters very much but if they are deployed by themselves close to the enemy they are gonna have a bad time. Pretty nice list, but the same advice as the one before... Max that Bow Limit!
Of the 2 Lists, Option 1 is my favourite. It hasn't got as many models but the same might and 1 model Break difference. You don't have to change it but Bows really are your friend!
Author:  NarsilReforged [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 650 Elves and 1000 Terror Harad and Umbar
Thanks for the advice. :) I have maxed my bow limit as much as I can. I can't do 50% bows with Umbar models and those are the ones with Terror, the main fluff behind my army.
As for changing the Golden King's warband to Abrakhans, it's a nice idea theme wise but it'd only get me 2 more bows anyway and I'd be losing those fv5 terror units. I think I already have a considerable amount of hitting power from the half trolls. I'll think about it though.
Also realised that in list 2 I have a banner and the Golden King. So I made another list which is a bit more like 2 than 1. Here it is:
W1:
Witch-King 3/20/3 on Fellbeast with Morgul Blade
8 Black Numenoreans

W2:
Golden King
8 Half Trolls
4 Haradrim with Spear, Bow

W3:
Haradrim Taskmaster
2 Watchers of Karna with Bows
4 Haradrim with Spear, Bow
6 Haradrim with Spear

W4:
Suladan with Horse
2 Watchers of Karna with Bows
4 Haradrim with Spear, Bow
6 Haradrim with Spear

W5:
Fell Warg

W6:
Fell Warg

W7:
Fell Warg

W8:
Fell Warg
Author:  Barrel Rider [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 650 Elves and 1000 Terror Harad and Umbar
Yeah forgot the 1/2 Bow Limit was only when you have certain warriors! As for this list it is good but unfortunately has a illegal factor... The first Warband is fine and well selected. However your Harad Contingent is just over the bow limit. This is because you have the half trolls, but don't worry because you just need to remove 3 bows from the Warriors and you'll be dandy! As for the Fell Wargs it is a good choice because of their special rules and I personally love the models!

So at 52 Models, Break Point 26, Bows 13 (once you've fixed it!) and 10 Might it seems like a competitive but fun army!
Author:  NarsilReforged [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 650 Elves and 1000 Terror Harad and Umbar
Yeah. Realised that yesterday. This is the army I've decided to go with:
W1:
Witch King 3/19/3 on Fellbeast with Morgul Blade
8 Orcs with Spear

W2:
Suladan with Horse
6 Haradrim Raiders with Warspear, Bow
6 Watchers of Karna with Bow

W3:
Golden King
3 Half Trolls
4 Castellans of Umbar
3 Haradrim with Spear

W4:
Haradrim Taskmaster
4 Half Trolls
4 Castellans of Umbar
4 Haradrim with Spear

W5:
Fell Warg

W6:
Fell Warg

W7:
Fell Warg

W8:
Fell Warg
Thanks for the help Barrel Rider! :)
Author:  Barrel Rider [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 650 Elves and 1000 Terror Harad and Umbar
Not a problem and good luck with them!
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