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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | From almost scratch Angmar list |
I have been thinking about starting an Angmar army to oppose my warden's of the north. Something pure Angmar for now but that I could use to expand with allies from Moria and Azog's hunter in the future. Now the thing is that aside from a handful of orcs I'll be buy it all new and I'd prefer to do it all at once or at least over a sort amount of time. So I what something that is playable out of the box as it were, not some tournament winner but would still be fun to play. After a few mouths of mulling it over this is what I have come up with. Burdur cave troll x2 Warg chieftain wild wargs x6 warg riders with shield x4 Orc captain with shield Orcs with shield x6 Orcs with spear x6 Orc captain with shield Orcs with shield x5 Orcs with spear x6 Orc with banner x1 Its about 750 pts. total and look decent to me but what do you guys think? |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: From almost scratch Angmar list |
It's not a bad list. But it needs some magic in the form of a shade, Specters or something to fit Angmar. Also it feels kinda like a 'tweener' list. You have some orcs, but not much. Some Cav ,but not much. Some monsters, but not much (in comparative power). To me you just really need that magic to boost your force' strength massively |
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| Author: | Elf of the North [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: From almost scratch Angmar list |
What do you think of this for 500 points: Warband 1 Witch-king of Angmar with fell beast; 2 Extra Might; 2 Extra Fate 3 Orc Warrior with shield 6 Orc Warrior with spear 2 Orc Warrior with Two-handed Weapon 1 Spectre Warband 2 Barrow-wight 3 Orc Warrior with shield 6 Orc Warrior with spear 2 Orc Warrior with Two-handed Weapon 1 Spectre Warband 3 Angmar Orc Shaman 3 Orc Warrior with shield 6 Orc Warrior with spear 2 Orc Warrior with Two-handed Weapon 1 Orc Warrior with Shield; Spear; Banner 500 points, 39 models, 3 might? I think this list has a definite Angmar feel to it. Quite a lot of magic (and different magic as well), a monster and decent numbers. Might could be an issue though, and of course the lack of bows. For 750 points you could add a shade/Bhurdur, improve the Witch-king, and add som warg riders. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: From almost scratch Angmar list |
A shaman would be easy enough to get and I could through in a few two handed weapons to for some variety. Thanks for the advise. |
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| Author: | Leonardis [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: From almost scratch Angmar list |
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| Author: | Rozinante [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: From almost scratch Angmar list |
How about: Witch King on Fellbeast 3 might 12 will 1 fate (a bargain at the cost of a Shade & Barrow Wight) 6 orc shields 6 orc spear Burdur 6 orc shields 6 orc spear Shade 6 orc shields 6 orc spear Barrowwight 6 orc shields 6 orc spear 698 points, 6 might, 52 units Weak troops (F3 D5) supported by Shade will win you fights, some very powerful & annoying magic (Paralyze can be a game changer), two good monsters with Might and very good numbers when most of your opponents will bring a war band less at 700 points. Bows on Orcs need spears to be useful. Don't bother (IMHO). I can't recommend Two Handed weapons: you will usually face armies with higher fight value. With a Shade, you will still win 61%...and 70% against the same fight (according to Lonely Knight's excellent Odds of Winning A Fight software). Winning those fights is more important, I think. |
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| Author: | Hodush [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: From almost scratch Angmar list |
The first list is good. I think it is also an in betweener. I'd probably take out some warg riders to add more orcs. You'd have a good amount of might to get things done that way and hopefully enough troops to not break too soon. Elf of the North has a good list there too. The only problem I see with it is that you don't have a heap of troops to make use of the magic, however 39 troops at 500 pts is pretty good. The witch king can do some good damage too, just make sure you don't lose him. I definitely like this list, it would be pretty effective at a tournament I feel. Rozinante has a decent list, its more about generally making the enemy not as effective and just slowly crushing them to death. Still tournament worthy but you would have to get onto threats vs the troops and heroes very quickly or they might ruin your day, so it can be hard to choose in that circumstance. |
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