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Author:  Badner [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Competitive 450 Pts.

Hi everybody!

I want to build a competitive 450 Pts. army, which I could expand to a 650 Pts. army by adding Beorn. Please help me by creating this list. My army should be an elven army, an army of thror or a White council army.

Here are some thoughts I had:

List 1:

-Warband 1: Bombur
-Warband 2: Thorin Oakenshield with The Oakenshield; Orcrist; 6 Warrior of Erebor with Spear; Shield; 6 Warrior of Erebor with Shield;
-Warband 3: Balin ; 3 Warrior of Erebor with Spear; Shield; 6 Warrior of Erebor with Shield; 3 Warrior of Erebor with Spear;
-Warband 4: Alfrid

Total: 450 Pts.

List 2:

Warband 1
Gandalf the Grey
Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm
Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood
Warband 2
Alfrid
Total: 445 Pts.

I dont know how to make a competitive elven army.

Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

Can I suggest any models at all for the competitive elven one?

Author:  Frêrin [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

List one is very solid. Bombur and Alfrid is a little bit cheesy but ok in this army. I'd try it and look how it works.
I think the second list is a bit more than 450 points :-D

And with Elfs I'd field Galadriel, Lady of Light, Thranduil, Rumil and about 20 Woodelves.

Author:  Badner [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

LordoftheBrownRing wrote:
Can I suggest any models at all for the competitive elven one?

Of course, feel free to post any list you like. However, I don't like to play the old Legolas/Thranduil instead of the BOFA. Apart from that, any heroes are okay.

Frêrin wrote:
List one is very solid. Bombur and Alfrid is a little bit cheesy but ok in this army. I'd try it and look how it works.

I would try all those lists. However, I don't have any of the miniatures. I want to have a solid list before I buy the models. Unfortunately, I don't know anybody who could lend me this army.
Frêrin wrote:
I think the second list is a bit more than 450 points :-D

Oh, I did not want to include Galadriel. I edited the list.

Author:  Frêrin [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

I don't think the second list will work. It is not that difficult to kill Alfrid and Gandalf and with only 2 models left it will be hard to win any scenario.

Author:  Badner [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:38 am ]
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Okay, I was also afraid of that. However, can you suggest a 450 Pts. White council army? Or is all hero to weak at less point games?

Author:  Frêrin [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

All hero is totally fine. The problem will be time. If there is no time limit, I'd field

Thorin, King under the Mountain
Thranduil, King of the Woodlandrealm
Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood
Bilbo (with staff)

Not really white Coucil, but more themed than Legolas in a white Coucil army. I played against

Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood
Tauril, Exilant
Gwaihir
Eagle
Alfrid

And got destroyed. Sorry no white Coucile too but the problem is there are not that much fighter except Thranduil. Maybe

Thranduil, KoW
Glorfindel armour of Gondolin and horse
Gwaihir
Alfrid

But with Alfrid it is very cheesy ;)

Author:  Badner [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

I like list 3 and 1. But what do you mean with the time limit? Why should this be a problem? I don't know how I should play an all hero army, any tips?

Especially list 1 is quite cheap. However, I don't know how to use Bilbo.

Which army do you think is the best: List 1,3 or my dwarf army.
With an all hero army, there are a lot of scenarios, which are very difficult to win. For example domination (I hope that's the English name for the second scenario from the rule book).

The best thing would be a competitive normal army, for which I only had to buy one or two heroes for converting it into an competitive all hero army.

Author:  Badner [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

Hi,

what do you think about this list:

Saruman the Wise
Glorfindel, Lord of the West with Armour of Gondolin;
Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm with Horse;
Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood

Total: 450 Pts.

This list could also be not bad:

-Warband 1: Thorin Oakenshield; 6 Warrior of Erebor with Spear; Shield; 6 Warrior of Erebor with Shield
-Warband 2: Legolas with Armour; 10 Mirkwood Ranger

Total: 449 Pts.

Author:  Frêrin [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

Badner wrote:
Saruman the Wise
Glorfindel, Lord of the West with Armour of Gondolin;
Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm with Horse;
Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood

Total: 450 Pts.

What you guys fit in 450 pts is awesome :-D

Author:  Badner [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Competitive 450 Pts.

Oh nooo, not again! :shock: :oops: I should stop using an excel document or try not to post a list without checking it.

However, can you please tell me how to use an all hero army, especially Bilbo?

Thank you

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