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Author:	Quinndalf [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:	For Gondor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 500 pts
okay i have 2 lists here both fairly different list 1 Leader : Faramir heavy armour, shield 12 fountain court all with shield Beregond 12 fountain court all shield Damrod 12 Rangers 6 with spear 491 points, 5 Might, 39 models, 19 break point List 2 Leader : Faramir heavy armour, shield 12 fountain court all shield Madril 12 womt all shield 6 spear Damrod 12 rangers 6 spear 491 points, 7 might, 39 models, 19 break point i could boost both to 600 pts by swapping faramir for boromir with shield what do you think? Regards Quinndalf

Author:	LordElrond [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:31 pm ]
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The second, but I think I'd go with Cirion instead of Madril. I'm not saying that Madril's Master of Ambush isn't good (actually it's amazing) but he is with a combat group and there is already beregond in your force to hang around with the archers. Just saying that d6 is so much better than d5 because s3 (men, elves and dwarves) and s5 (dwalin, Uruk captains etc.) will find it so much harder to kill him. But then it's all up to you to do what ever you want.

Author:	Quinndalf [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:31 pm ]
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could you give me some reasons behind your choice? because if the worry is might then i can take out a fountain court and throw in Alfrid. Maybey he could represent Denethor?

Author:	Frêrin [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:27 am ]
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Well why can't Denethor represent Denethor? Fountain court guards are really good, the only bad thing about them is having spears you don't need. With D7 they should be in the front rank. Two make your list more efficient, support them with Warriors of Minas Thirit with spears. In general you should always have either F4 in the front rank or the second rank and your high defense troops in the front. So rangers with spears or Citadel guards with bow and spear are best behind warriors of Minas Thirit with shields and Warriors of Minas Thirit with spear behind Fountain guards. An awesome list would be Denethor, Beregond and Cirion (fits the theme best I think). With 1/6 Fountain court guard 1/6 warriors of MT with shield and spears, 1/3 Warriors of MT with shields and 1/3 Citadel Guard with longbows and spears.

Author:	Bronf [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:19 am ]
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i would rather take a king of men then Cirion. there just a slightly weaker version of faramir the problem i have with cirion is his spec rules is that if no one in the other force has terror he is just slightly over cost with 1 less d then a normal captain but same cost value. (1 less might as well but i rather have my captains survive longer )

Author:	Frêrin [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:34 pm ]
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I'd take Cirion. One more might is more worth than one defense in my opinion.

Author:	Galanur [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:56 pm ]
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All a bunch of interesting lists indeed. list 1 its a pretty straight forward list, bit of everything and works well as shieldwall while rangers cut off stuff with shooting. List 2 its a bit variation of the 2nd... I still prefer list 1 as the overall you got more D7 models with spear/shield/bodyguard Although madril is more resistant than damrod to absorv dmg. Madril is indeed nice for controlling reinforcements, but not sure about it, Cirion for the cost seems more suited for melee combat and with it to face off melee more often than madril. Have you consider Faramir, Captain of Ithilien? he came out on a WD magazine and its around 150pts Not sure if hes valid anymore but was fun getting a full geared Faramir with a 12" standfast and some units in the army to count him as a banner of 12"

Author:	Gondorian Captain [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:45 pm ]
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For Gondor! Both lists look fine. Using warriors of Minas-tirith with fountain court gives you the best of both worlds in my opinion. Of the two I'd put the regular men of minas-tirith in front as it means later in the game you'll have more of the fountain court left alive. But if you give both spears you have the option to change depending on your opponent. Don't use Alfred as Denethor. If you're going to use Alfred for an in game benefit, be honest about it and use Alfred. If you want a nicely themed Gondor force then just take the heroes from Gondor

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