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| Author: | whafrog [ Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | SBG: Shooting at spears and pikes? |
This comes up a lot: trying to shoot at spear support, but the model he's supporting (in the fight) is "in the way". I'm guessing Good can't shoot, for the risk of hitting their own guy if the Evil model in the fight is hit by the "in the way" roll? Another that comes up a lot: 2 pikes supporting a model in a fight. Pike2 (the last one) is obscured by Pike1 (the guy behind the fighter), but is not obscured by the model in the fight. However, Pike1 *is* obscured by the model in the fight. For a shot at Pike2, technically the only "in the way" roll is for Pike1, but if he's hit instead, is there an "in the way" roll for the guy in the fight as well? If so, I'm assuming this would prevent Good from making the shot as in the situation above? |
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| Author: | valpas [ Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
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Hardcover rulebook, p. 25: "a model might wish to shoot at a target that is partially obscured by two or more models engaged in combat." This is a bit ambiguous in my opinion, but I would say that this means that if any one of the two combatants obscures the target spearman. The paragraph continues: "Good models... cannot take this kind of shot, but Evil ones can. If the shot hits the intended target, then the fight will be treated as an obstacle 'in the way' of the shot. If a 1-3 is rolled... the hit must be resolved in the same way as a shot directed against targets in combat..." So, Good can not shoot, if the spearman is obscured by any one of the fighters. Evil can, but the whole hurly-burly of the combat will be treated a single obstacle requiring an in-the-way roll. After hitting the combat, the side of the combat will be resolved. In the other example, pike2 is not obscured by models engaged in combat, because the supporting pike1 does not count as being in combat. Therefore, the previous rule (last paragraph from "In the way") would not apply, and Good can shoot him. An in-the-way roll can cause the arrow to hit pike1, but not any of the combatants. The key word here is "target"; only combats obscuring "target" cause in-the-way rolls. -- Pasi |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:25 pm ] |
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Thanks, that's pretty much what I figured. |
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