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Bolt 'o' Fire: Nuclear Meltdown on a 6
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Author:  ForwardPocket [ Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Bolt 'o' Fire: Nuclear Meltdown on a 6
Hi again guys,

Here's the situation, I was playing a 4 player game of WoTR the other yesterday. My warg riders came up near two companies of uruk scout archers with a shaman. Only then did I realise I was going to get blasted (long term SBG player, short term WoTR :wink: ). My opponent then cast Fireball on the wargs, and I failed to resist it. He then proceeded to roll a 6 on the effect. Read this:

Quote:
If a 6 is rolled, every formation instead takes D6+3 Strength 7 hits.


I was thinking this was a misprint that was meant to say company, so was my opponent, and my teamate (who's a good guy by the way, not a power gamer) thought it was every formation within 18".

So what do you guys think? We resolved it by asking a staffer, who said it was a misprint. Do you think we should have followed RAW, diced off or do you think it is normal for Uruks to have a magical meltdown in the heat of battle?

Thanks,
FP/TGK.
Author:  Phantom_Lord [ Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:42 pm ]
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i don't think its either one of you're options. every formation seems stupid, as that would mean a haywire bolt of fire spinning and buzzing about. every company is totally overpowered in game terms. an average of 6 hits at every enemy company at S7? ouch... :shock:

it think it should be more like:
If a 6 is rolled, the formation instead takes D6+3 Strength 7 hits.

just how i read this though... :roll: [/b]
Author:  Keithio the Green [ Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:42 pm ]
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I second the above. Most damaging spells when cast on a 6 either give more dice or a higher strength.
Author:  Onyx [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:07 am ]
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At the back of the book, it clearly states D6+3 ST 7 hits (as opposed to ST 5 if you roll 2-5).

No extra attacks on nearby formations or extra attacks on all the companies.
Author:  Hellfury [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:35 pm ]
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I am of two minds on this.

First, I voted that it should say "Company". More precisely, every company within the target formation. Not every company within 18".

But, I also think that it could be interpreted as the formation just takes the increased strength hits instead of passing out the increased strength hits to every company in the formation.

I feel it is more reasonable to have the entire formation take the increased strength rather than every company take the increased strength. Its just too powerful any other way, IMO.

If it were my job to tweak this spell, I would do one of two things:

    If a 6 is rolled, every company in the formation instead takes D6+3 Strength 5 hits (Ents instead suffer D6+3 Strength 9 hits)
    If a 6 is rolled, the formation instead takes D6+3 Strength 7 hits (Ents instead suffer D6+3 Strength 9 hits)


The first option is still more powerful, but its a lot better than every company in the formation taking 4-10 str 7 hits.

I will aslo say that RAW does not support the assertion that every formation within 18" is affected. This is because of the order of operations in which you must cast the spell. Reading the spell description on page 74:
1st) You must first choose one formation within 18" of the caster.
2nd) you must roll a D6 and consult the results table to find the results.

This is why I beleive that every formation within 18" of the caster cannot be affected by the spell, as the spell clearly states that it has one target. The instructions of the spell make no sense interpreting it otherwise.

Hence why I believe it was just a mistake on the writers part that it should be "every company within the formation" and not "every formation".
Author:  hithero [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:12 pm ]
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A six just gives a higher strength hit, just like all the other rolled sixes for other spells.
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