i can you guys help need to make up a 800 pt army for lotr tornie cant decide between elfs or dwarfs can anyone help which is better

There is no "better", either one works fine, it depends what flavor you want. Personally I prefer elves: better mobility and more troop types, but dwarves are hard to crack and have some S4 options. Do you know anything about the scenarios?

I disagree with whafrog; Elves are frequently used in the top GT armies, whereas Dwarves are rarely used there. The only way Dwarves work at a very competitive level is with Khazad Guard and allied spear support.

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I play elves a lot more than dwarves, so I'll defer to your experience Lack of spears and mobility are definite dwarven weaknesses.

At 800 points you could probably get the bost of both forces allied into eachother. Here is a force that represents what would have happened if celeborn had died from "unknown causes" and gimli got it on with the megababe..

Gimli- 90pts
10 dwarves with shield 90 pts
10 dwarves with bow 90pts
5 khazad guard 55pts
5 rangers with 2h axe
Galadriel with fountain 155 pts
10 elves with spear 80pts
10 elves with spear and bow- 100pts
10 elves with elven blades and throwing daggers- 100pts

695 points, 62 models, 10 bows (two different volleys), 6 might, much more than usual being expendable due to the fountain.

I really like dwarves with there high defense and axes. KG are great if you start with dwarves they are a must. Its already been mentioned but I ally my dwarfs with gondor to get spear support. This way you can also add knights of MT for some cavalry.

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thanks everyone ill give my elves a go cheers