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 Post subject: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:09 pm 
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If a mumak wins a heroic combat does its trample rule apply for its next move?
The updated rules allow this to be done for the great beast of gorgoroth and war camels but i cant find anything for the mumak.

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 Post subject: Re: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:01 pm 
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Mumak's can't do a Heroic Combat.
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 Post subject: Re: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:41 pm 
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hithero wrote:
Mumak's can't do a Heroic Combat.

The commander CAN; which would make the Mumak part of the Heroic Combat. I'm not sure if the trampling happens after said combat is won, however...

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 Post subject: Re: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:24 pm 
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The Commander is not in B2B contact and cannot fight, therefore he cannot call a Heroic Combat. There is nothing in the Mumak rules to make an exception to the standard rules like there is with a Heroic Move.
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 Post subject: Re: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:30 pm 
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Brill that makes sense, cheers.

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 Post subject: Re: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:07 am 
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Someone else in the fight can call a Heroic fight though. So the Mumak tramples stuff until it gets stopped, then a hero catches up with it and calls the heroic fight. it's entirely possible for the Mumak to be involved in a heroic fight. I would say that it continues trampling, as that is pretty much the only way it can move.

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 Post subject: Re: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:17 am 
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On second thoughts the mumak description states that the mumak counts as the commanders mount. If a mounted models mount is in b2b contact then wouldnt it benifit from the rider calling heroic combat?

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 Post subject: Re: S.B.G Mumak
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:49 pm 
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"The Mumak is never affected by heroic moves called by Heroes other than its Commander" (page 33 from Fallen Realms). So, even if the rules specifies only heroic moves (from other heros), I don't think that heroic fights are allowed (or even heroic shooting, for the howdah crew).
However, I think that the commander can call a heroic fight for the Mumak, but I don't know if they will be allowed to trample again.

However, I got one question: does the Mumak Commander participates of the fights of the Mumak?
If a nazgul in fellbeast is in combat, both the nazgul and the fellbeast attacks (but both can be hurt).
In the case of the Mumak, what do you think? The commander can or cannot participate of the combat? If he can, could he be wounded by the combat?

(sorry, I don't mean to be rude by using your post to make my question, but I think it's easyer for everybody if all the questions of the same subject are in the same post).

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:06 pm 
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[quote="lsmassa"]"

However, I got one question: does the Mumak Commander participates of the fights of the Mumak?
If a nazgul in fellbeast is in combat, both the nazgul and the fellbeast attacks (but both can be hurt).
In the case of the Mumak, what do you think? The commander can or cannot participate of the combat? If he can, could he be wounded by the combat?

The mumak commander cannot fight, he is on top of the mumak after all, can't exactly reach.
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