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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2 handed weapon feinting |
So... If I feint, but use my sword as a two-handed weapon, does the re-roll of a one apply to the natural roll or the roll after bonuses. Also, any idea how to submit this question for a FAQ? |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
I guess you'd have to email GW or call their support line and get an email for the ME team in order to get them to answer it in the faq. |
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| Author: | tasadur [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
The rules state that you can re-rol rolls of a 1. This means the natural dice result. Even with the +1 modifier the roll is still a 1 but counts as a 2 for the purpose of wounding the opponent. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
I don't mean to sound rude but how do you know that is what it means? The wording under the two-handed section implies that the To Wound role gets a +1 to the result shown on the die, not +1 to the result when applied to the chart. The feinting role also does not say anything about the 1 being natural. Was their an old faq that I missed? Is this occurrence just so common with other games that it is a generally excepted interpretation that needs no explanation? |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
I mean, the natural roll would seem logical, otherwise you just destroyed your fight value for nothing... On the other hand, Anduril is now failing on 2s only. |
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| Author: | Voyager360 [ Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
Good question. You can send any queries to: middle-earthfaq@gwplc.com as can be found on: https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/ |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
Thanks! I could not find a SBG e-mail. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
Let us know what they send back! |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
Nothing yet, but hopefully it will be in the next FAQ. |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
"We've forwarded this to middle-earthfaq@gwplc.com to be considered for the next FAQ. In the future, feel free to send your questions there! Regards Nick Community Team " The response will hopefully be in a FAQ. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
Progress! Very good. Thank you for doing the leg work Cave Dragon. |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
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| Author: | Asamu [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
I'd assume they'll keep it consistent across the games. In both AoS and 40k, re-rolls always happen before modifiers, despite the weird situations that can come up, where you can't re-roll a roll that would fail after the modifiers, despite the rule allowing you to re-roll "all failed rolls." |
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| Author: | Aldaron [ Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
I'd clearly say, if you throw 1 it's a 1. Everything afterwards are just Boni. In the german rulebook, it's clearly stated at some points, that you have a "3-throw" or a "5-throw" where the dice is shown, thats your throw, and afterwards you modify. (on the other hand: I had some bad experiences with the german translation lately) |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
Ah, thank you! Now to spam 2-handed Anduril with feinting... Fear me. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
I am disappointed that the SBG team did not take the time to clear it up officially with the recent FAQ. Since the general consensuses that the affects are applied after rerolls I will treat it as such until I hear any better arguments. I'll have to keep it in mind with my elves, clansmen, and especially Hurin the Tall in the future. |
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| Author: | Gundalad [ Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 handed weapon feinting |
Even if you were str10 and the target was Defense 1 you would usually need a 3+ to wound, if you two-handed the attack the +1 to wound would make this a 2+ to wound and if you feinted then you would reroll a 1 for a single extra chance. I’m guessing the confusion is in saying that the actual dice roll is modified to a different number which no longer counts as rolling a 1, but it’s the number you need that is modified imo not the dice roll. |
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