Gandalf or Mt. Saruman - which is better?

SidTheSloth · **Posted:** Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:13 pm

Hi all

I am playing another 600pt game in a few days and I can't decide which to stick in my list - Gandalf or a mounted White Council Saruman?

I will be using Rohorim + Elves against my Harad + Orcs + Elves opponents
we will both be nearly maxed out on bows which is where G's 'blinding light' comes in handy

at a very tight squeze I might be able to fit both in

please help :pray:

speedy replies would be much apreciated

:gandalf:

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:19 pm

Gandalf! But only because he is my favourite. Both have their perks.

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:06 pm

I would certainly not play both! Why not post the rest of your force so we know what else you're using?

SidTheSloth · **Posted:** Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:17 pm

okay dokey

this is only a vague list so far as im still making it (hence the thread)

Warband 1 10/12
Éomer, Marshal of the Riddermark with Horse; Shield; Throwing spears;
6 Rider of Rohan
4 Warrior of Rohan with Throwing spears; Shield;
----
Warband 2 10/12
Legolas with Armour;
6 Galadhrim Warrior with Shield; Spear;
4 Galadhrim Warrior with Elf bow;
----
warband 3
Gimli, son of Gloin
Aragorn/strider w/bow + armour

+
Gandalf or Saruman

also possibly another warband of a cap. + some warriors

fritskuhntm · **Posted:** Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:25 pm

saruman is always the better choice, with sorcerers blast on 4+ and higher range on other spells.

SidTheSloth · **Posted:** Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:21 am

seeing as i play against elves G's 'blinding' light wound potentially half my casualties
i am completeley not sure which one to take :roll:

SidTheSloth · **Posted:** Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:28 pm

ok
you lot have persuaded me to take Saruman

here's the eventual list:

Warband 1 10/12
Éomer, Marshal of the Riddermark with Horse; Shield; Throwing spears;
6 Rider of Rohan with Throwing spears;
4 Warrior of Rohan with Throwing spears; Shield;
----
Warband 2 6/12
Captain of Rohan with Horse; Heavy armour; Shield; Throwing spears;
6 Warrior of Rohan with Throwing spears; Shield;
----
Warband 3 4/12
Legolas with Armour; Elven cloak;
2 Galadhrim Warrior with Shield; Spear;
2 Galadhrim Warrior with Elf bow; Spear;
----
Warband 4 3/12
Gimli, son of Glóin with Elven cloak;
3 Khazâd Guard
----
Warband 5
Saruman the White with Horse;
----

if there is anything that would be better in a different warband or swapped then please shout

Draugluin · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:33 pm

You should either take out the dwarves or the elves and bulk up on the other warbands. Also, you have too many bows for your elves, you need to have at least 2 more without bows for them to work.

SidTheSloth · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:04 pm

Quote:

Dragulin said: you have too many bows for your elves, you need to have at least 2 more without bows for them to work

not quite sure what you mean. the bow limit is legal...

i played this army a few days ago and it worked quite well ( i won

) saruman was a real bonus, he killed 3 KoMT, 4 rangers and faramir.
thanks for your helpfull advice guys

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:20 pm

No it's not, you have 4 elf warriors. 2 have bows. 4 divided 2 is 2, meaning you have 50% bows with your elves.

SidTheSloth · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:30 pm

under the new rules the bow limit is rounded up.
4/3 = 1.33 - rounded up = 2

http://www.one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=23666

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:33 pm

Aahh, forgot about that. The math man in me says that you never round 1.33 up, but the rules are rules.

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:28 pm

SidTheSloth wrote:

under the new rules the bow limit is rounded up.
4/3 = 1.33 - rounded up = 2

http://www.one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=23666

The new rules state that heroes are ignored for purposes of bow limit so you would need 6 warriors (in total) to be able to include 2 bows. So 4 shields and 2 bows for example.

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