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Who should get Strength 4?
High Men only 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
High Men and Noldor only 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
High Men, Half-Orcs, Uruk Hai and Noldor 47%  47%  [ 9 ]
All Men, Half-Orcs, Uruk Hai, and Noldor 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
All Men, Half-Orcs, Uruk Hai, Noldor and Sindar 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
None of the above, or something else (please post!) 21%  21%  [ 4 ]
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Flame I like your ranking, except for hobbits. Since all the hobbits held their own in Moria, I'd say S2 is good. Lobelia is S1, that should be the bottom. Not sure about changing the spiders from their current S5...

I'm still not sure refactoring the "average" S and D is a good idea, I just threw it out there for discussion.
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I do like it to, still not so keen with the Dwarves being strenght 3, but ah well, it´s just my vision on them, and btw Gimli had 4 axes, 1 throwing axe (or maybe even more of those) , 2 dual wield axes, and 1 two hand axe.

But I would say that only high men, could rival the strenght of 4 and as such Minas-Tirith, Rohhirrim, Easterlings (maybe), would be still strenght 3.... although then im confused as to were put the "Gondor militia and fiefdoms"

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I couldn't remember the stats for spiders. If they are STR 5 then they should probably stay that way.
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Mouth-of-Sauron wrote:
and btw Gimli had 4 axes, 1 throwing axe (or maybe even more of those) , 2 dual wield axes, and 1 two hand axe.


Yeah, in the movie. Not in the book.
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ah darn it again, Jackson sure has sparkled my mind :rofl:

well , then my apologies, its just I had the same vision of dwarves as in the movie but ah well, :rofl:

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Mouth-of-Sauron wrote:
we are all humans and do make mistakes


Errae humanum est. :)

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I am just confused as to why in Flame's ranking Haradrim are a STR below the likes of Rohhirim and Easterlings, they are all not High Men, so why do the second 2 deserve higher STR, the same could be said of the Fiefdoms whn Dol Amroth has higher.

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Whats that suppoed to mean?

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we are all humans and do make mistakes??
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Mouth-of-Sauron wrote:
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Errae humanum est


Whats that suppoed to mean?


To err is human. Except it's Errare...but maybe that was intentional :)
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Highlordell wrote:
I am just confused as to why in Flame's ranking Haradrim are a STR below the likes of Rohhirim and Easterlings, they are all not High Men, so why do the second 2 deserve higher STR, the same could be said of the Fiefdoms whn Dol Amroth has higher.


Because the Rohirim learned from Gondor, and were also the closest descendents of the original ancestors of the Numenorians. Dol Amroth was also a Numenorian stronghold, but the other fiefdoms were made up of mostly common men with a small sprinkling of Numenorian blood.
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I am just confused as to why in Flame's ranking Haradrim are a STR below the likes of Rohhirim and Easterlings, they are all not High Men, so why do the second 2 deserve higher STR, the same could be said of the Fiefdoms whn Dol Amroth has higher.


Because the Rohirim learned from Gondor, and were also the closest descendents of the original ancestors of the Numenorians. Dol Amroth was also a Numenorian stronghold, but the other fiefdoms were made up of mostly common men with a small sprinkling of Numenorian blood.


Exactly. Perhaps I also just assumed that a tribal people from the far Harad deserts and the Hill-Folk "scratching a living off rocks" in Dunland wouldn't have access to grain and protein in their diet to reach Strength 4. :)
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whafrog wrote:
Mouth-of-Sauron wrote:
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Errae humanum est


Whats that suppoed to mean?


To err is human. Except it's Errare...but maybe that was intentional :)


Erm, sure, it was intentional... :oops:

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