Seems very good( You forgot wargear)... Maybe we should call him Walgroth
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Well here is my idea for a Feral Captain after seeing that there isn't one in the game at the moment, The name i have not finalized yet but will do in due course however here is the profile: Equipment: Two Hand Weapons (Swords) and Armour. F5/- S5 D6 A3* W2 C6 M/W/F 3/1/1 Points 75. Special Rule: Never Back Down! If <name here> starts a Fight phase Trapped then he gets a +1 bonus to his Strength for that phase. Any name suggestions for this guy would help but as for the model i am going to use and the conversion i am going to do i am not sure yet. Might have to pair him with Dogbret (or Brakroth, haven't decided yet) and see how they do. 'FireKnife' Editied to add equipment, thanks Hilbert. |
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| Author: | Hilbert [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Seems very good( You forgot wargear)... Maybe we should call him Walgroth
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Edit made, thanks. As for the one i want something short, sharp and gutteral like Lurtz or Ugluk. But still it is a good name. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
That's nice, I would sauy his points are too low for a 3 attack model, but then there is the Mahud King. nother name suggestion is Kurag. |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Well i looked at it like this points wise: Captain 50 Extra Attack 5 Courage 10 Extra Might 5 Special Rule 5 So 75pts lol. But as for Kurag, hmmm, actually using that i would think Kural (with that symbol on the U to make it sound gutteral). Thanks. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
I would not add the extra 5 points for the bonus might, GW don't do it so you shouldn't either! EDIT: Although since he is "feral" maybe a rule for him to get "free" fate points as if he were under the effect of a taskmaster could work.... |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Unfortunatley i don't know the Taskmasters rules as i haven't the Mordor book. However i am also looking for the Head Taker rule so i can actually look at buying Ugluk lol. Plus with the extra 5pts for Might it just seems right, mostly as with Wraiths it is the standard for adding a point of Might. However i may look at adding a point of Fate and taking away the Will, as to corrupt an insane mind would be easy but he would be able to handle the pain that the extra Fate could count as. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
What I meant was a rule in which whenever he uses a fate point you roll a die, on a 4+ not reduce his fate stock. Regarding the 5pts for might, take a hero like cirion, he *should* cost over 60pts (capt+shield+might+whatever his special rule costs) but he doesn't because he would cost far too much if he was added up correctly. |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Well i think that giving a basic named Captain too many special rules would be a bit too far but i see what you mean. As for the cost, well maybe at 70pts (as he is unique too) that would seem about right for what he is. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
FireKnife wrote: Well i looked at it like this points wise: I like the profile and the special rule. I think your point costs are good, though Courage is worth 5 or 0, depending on other things, while an extra attack is usually 10 (compare Halbarad vs Arathorn). |
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| Author: | Angularity [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
I'm not sure that ferals should have a Captain, who would lead by example. A slavedriver/taskmaster type might be more suitable, beating them into line then sending them on their way. Maybe have a special rule so that the ferals are terrified of him because of the torture he inflicts, so he acts like a banner when he's within 3" (only to ferals), but he himself is a gutless coward with a Fight value of 2 and a Courage of 3, and defence 6 because of all the armour he wears. In other words, he's completely useless without his pack of feral Uruks, and he has to stick close to them to get them to fight. |
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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Angularity wrote: I'm not sure that ferals should have a Captain, who would lead by example. A slavedriver/taskmaster type might be more suitable, beating them into line then sending them on their way. Maybe have a special rule so that the ferals are terrified of him because of the torture he inflicts, so he acts like a banner when he's within 3" (only to ferals), but he himself is a gutless coward with a Fight value of 2 and a Courage of 3, and defence 6 because of all the armour he wears. In other words, he's completely useless without his pack of feral Uruks, and he has to stick close to them to get them to fight. Nice idea but the idea here is to have a feral captain, not a feral taskmaster. |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Well i think that yeah 10pts for Courage 6 is a bit high, maybe just 5 and cut him in at 70pts all told. As for him being a 'Captain' well it is Captain in the loosest sense, more that he is just stronger and bigger and has M/W/F than we is actually going to lead by exapmle. So really i could call him a Feral Scarlord or something, a name that implies a Veteran Feral. As for the Taskmaster that does make sense, but i am more after a hardened warrior (with Hero stats) than a driving force. However if / when i make the model i am really not sure where to start, seeing as my own Ferals are coverted Engineers (in the WIP thread). 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
I recommend buying a model from a different company, maybe check out reaper mini's? |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Feral Uruk Captain. (a house profile for SBG). |
Any recommendations, save trawling through the whole website for something. 'FireKnife' |
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