hey, ive been a bit bored so i wanna make some fun armies with moria. the armies dont have to be very good all i want is somthing that will be fun to play, like mass troll/spiders ect

so i was thinking something along this line

durburz
shaman
3trolls
31goblins

or

durburz
4trolls
24goblins


and i havent really thought much about spiders and wargs, but having a moria - dol gul dur army would be pretty cool, any ideas?

something like
durburz
warg chieften
spider queen
lots of goblins/ spiders or wargs or both


and this just came to mind: an army almost completly made up of wargs/spiders/trolls!!!!

i dont have leigons with me right now, what trolls does dol gul dur have? cave trolls, mordor trolls or both?

An army made out of creatures is fine but you'll probably be low on numbers so I suggest taking some gobos as well. Also be sure to get Druzag if you're taking beasts.

But if you're looking for only beasts then Dol-goldur is the army for you.

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well again im not really concerned about how good the army will be, just how fun it would be, although i agree with getting druzag cause hes sooooo fun and the gobs so i dont get steam rolled.

bty can you make that elves tactica? it would be really nice, thanks

I'm only really experienced with Rivendell and Mirkwood. I have no experience with Lothlorien. And that would only be for SBG anyway. But if you want to.

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An all beast army might work if you based it on a lot of Wargs. They only cost 8pts each so you shouldn't be too outnumbered.

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You would be outshot. It would also be expensive to get. £10 for 48pts.

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How about a whole force of Goblin Ravagers (Only 9 points for a goblin mounted warg!) The rules were in WD312 if I recall. They are fun to play with and against because of a special rule that happens every turn a 1 is rolled before the evil movement phase.

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A Moria army is always going to be Outshot. And you'll able to get to the enemy within a few turns, so I don't think it will be a big problem.

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But in most cases the enemy will need 6s to kill your 5pt troops (S2vs.D5) but in this case it would be 5+ for every unit that costs twice as much, even though they move much further, the enemy will just stay put knowing that they cannot outmanuever their opponent.

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Ok, here's some odds.

Suppose 10 archers with a 4+ shoot value and normal bows are 48in from the Wargs. The Wargs move every turn at full move towards the archers who stay still. The archers will, on average, kill only 7 Wargs before they reach.

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I doubt the archers in a real scenario would stay still... 7 wargs is still a decent amount.

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[quoteHow about a whole force of Goblin Ravagers (Only 9 points for a goblin mounted warg!) The rules were in WD312 if I recall. They are fun to play with and against because of a special rule that happens every turn a 1 is rolled before the evil movement phase.[/quote]

ive never heard of the goblin ravagers

can some one fill me in?

and spuds4ever, it would be great even if its just rivendell and mirkwood, you can add your thoughts on lothlorien as you would have a better idea on how to use them than me

Ravagers are standard Goblins mounted on a warg so they get cavalry bonuses. However, the downside is that for each ravager you want to move each turn, you must roll a d6. If a 1 is rolled then the goblin is thrown and must make a roll on the thrown rider table. As per standard a courage test for the warg is required to see if it stays.
So Goblins have the cheapest cavalry in the game, but also the least reliable, which can be hilarious in gameplay.

In the same issue there were also rules for Goblin Scavengers, which are similar to prowlers in that they have the back-stabbing ability but are a bit cheaper in points I think.

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this is for sbg? sweet, but i dont know if i can get that issue, is there anywhere online that i could get it? or the stats and pts ect from someone else?

Sorry, yes, its for SBG. Because that's the only system I've really played over the years I often forget that trusty SBG now has a popular brash annoying little brother that is WotR. I've sent you a PM.

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Ravagers are an unofficial addition for SBG, featured in a White Dwarf

@ukfreddybear: When telling something, don´t forget to mention every detail...


You can´t use them in official tournaments and also, you have to have your opponents permission to use them but they are perfectly normal for friendly games...

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well heck they sound like alot of fun, so i hope to get some warg riders and proxy them for friendly matches.

besides, my objective im playing is to have fun and they seem to do that nicely

Ah, well I don't do Tourney's so it didn't occur to me to bring that up. I only ever play with friends for fun. The last time I played a stranger at GW I almost got in a fight because he kept moving my figures so I don't go there anymore to play.

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Haha same this guy thought i was new to the game and started playing the game for me i didnt understand what he was doing because he didnt explain it! and when they realised i wasnt new to the game i said "i use cast blinding light with gandalf" they said "whats that?" I tried to explain it and they didnt belive it was a real spell lol.

lolololol. I'd hate to be paired up with idiots like that. It's probably even worse than the super-optimist 9-year-old (no offence to any 9 year olds that might be out there) with our roll for priority of 4 he exclaimed, "Yes!! Yes!! Yes!!!!"

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