itachi217 wrote:
first of all thanks for the fast reply, so you say the starter hobby set is great but that i can get the moria cave better because its a little more expensive and get better stuff?
what is the diffrence between wotr and sbg? i think the sbg is better that is just the game itself right?
I really want the Haradrim i love the way they look and if they are not more difficult to paint then i buy them, I think painting things is hard right?
and you get better in it over time. is it possible to repaint things later?
And is it a good idea to buy a Harad Sourcebook?
and you say i can at elite's later what are they? is a elite of harad the Mumak of Harad? and can i make a army as big as i want or is there a limit?
Thanks very helpful sorry for the many questions. Greetz
Yeah I think the best option for starting is to get the Mines of Moria hobby set. You get the rulebook, models, a starter booklet, dice, rulers, a brush, and paints. Basically everything you need to get started.
Strategy battle game is where you move 1 model at a time. War of the Ring is more like Warhammer where you have many models on a tray and you move them around stuck together. They are 2 different games using the same models. The Strategy Battle game is better for getting started as you don't need as many models and its funner too!
There are many elites for Harad. The Haradrim Warriors and Raiders are the basics. Then there are Serpent Guard, Abrakhan Guard, and Watchers of Karna which are elite infantry, and Serpent Riders which are elite horsemen. All the elites are metal though, and can be quite expensive. I don't recommend getting the mumak until you have a lot of models already. It is also very expensive.
It is possible to repaint things later, though you may lose some of the detail, but from my experience its not that bad. There are also ways to take the paint off, though they can damage plastic models if they are too strong.
The profiles for Haradrim Warriors, Raiders, and Captains are in the main rulebook, but when you start getting elites you will need to get the Harad Sourcebook as you will not find the stats for those models in the rulebook. It also has some cool scenarios.
If you play by Legions of Middle Earth rules there are limits to how big your army is. You don't need to buy the LoME book as you can use this wonderful excel file by Lonely Knight.
http://lonelyknight.0fees.net/LOME%20v2.5.zip
On the starter screen choose the Serpent Horde list and then you can build an army and see the limits.
Basically, only 1 third of your force can be bowmen, not including heroes. Then there are model limits for the different points values. I can't remember the LoME ones but I personally play with 1 model per 10 points, so a 500 points force would have a maximum of 50 models, and a 600 would have a maximum of 60 models. I calculated a starter force that you can use with the miniatures that I listed earlier. Its a 250 point army and great for a starter game.
Haradrim Chieftain with bow and spear
Haradrim Warrior with Banner
12 Haradrim Warriors with Spear
5 Haradrim Warriors with bow
3 Haradrim Raiders with Warspear (lance)
3 Haradrim Raiders with Bow
249 Points
25 models
9 Bows
2 Might
It uses all the models from the stuff I listed earlier except 7 of the archers. You will be able to use these too once you get elites.
I hope that was helpful.
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you need a lot more models, and IMHO it's not as fun as the Strategy Battle Game.
