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 Post subject: goblin army list help
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:54 am 
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ok need help for a 1000 point game moria goblins here what i have 2 cave trolls 80 goblins all up (i convert some into capt when i need to) 1 dragon 1 balrog and drums and 2 drummers
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 Post subject: Re: goblin army list help
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:13 am 
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Well, definitely include the Dragon, I would include both trolls and the drummers. Then you should fill out that warband with gobos and that'll get you 550 pts. Then just include more warbands of goblin captains leading goblins. If you give the captains shields, each warband will be 100 pts each, so you can get 3 more full warbands. Then depending on what you give your dragon as upgrades (no matter what, either fly or tough hide) you'll have either 150, 100 or 50 more points to work with. If you give your dragon one upgrade, you can have a full extra warband so for exactly 1000 points, you can have:

Warband 1
Dragon (one upgrade)
2 trolls
drum
8 goblins

Warband 2-5
Goblin captain with shield
12 goblins with either shield, spear or bow.

That'll give you 60 models, and 11 might with 1 HEAVY hitter and 2 pretty heavy hitters. All your goblins will also have extra courage AND most of them will get to reroll their dice to win. You could always take out the drum and add another warband, but I find the drum to be more than worth taking, especially if it's the Gundabad one.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:15 am 
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oh ya forgot to mention i play lord not war i don't like the magic in war :)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:33 am 
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You can convert some Goblins into shamans, they are pretty useful.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:39 am 
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i dont got shaman and if i am gonna get a sham i would get the gundad blackshield sham since its temor seems like a good mass killer and shatter a good spell for guys like aragon
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:51 am 
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Normal Shamans are way better than Gundabads. The fury spell is what makes goblins good. I usually take no less that 3 normal shamans in my goblin lists. The 6+ save is handy and the auto pass courage test is even better. Allows you to swarm those pesky elf heroes and other terror causing creatures. It also means that when you are broken, you dont have to worry about running away.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:21 pm 
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i guess it will depend on who i will be fighting since gondor armys dont have any terror guys on them : / unless u have gandalf with his aura
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:29 pm 
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just a unrelated topic on my army are Castellans of Dol Guldur captains or troops?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:12 am 
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There are several reasons to take normal goblin shamen I can think of 3 really good ones.
when you cast fury the goblins nearby auto-pass any courage tests(this includes things like boromirs horn) add to the fact that they recover any lost wound on a 6(that becomes 5+ when Groblog is in play)
this can really change how the game goes for you especially when your opponent needs to kill all your gobs in a fight to benefit from heroic fights
then there's transfix, which although a lot of people think isn't worth the will spent, can work miracles as long as your dice don't suck (I tend to roll really well)

Add to that they're cheap enough so you can have them and Gundabad shamen too
rather deadly if you ask me

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