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 Post subject: Last Alliance 350 pts
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:41 pm 
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Hi everyone. Thought of two very similar 350 lists, for theme and competitiveness, ultimately for Titans in January (a long way off I know, but better to be prepared than not). Anyway here they are:

List 1:
Gil-Galad, shield, armoured horse (leader)
6 High Elf Warriors
3 High Elf Warriors, Elf Bows

Captain of Numenor, shield
6 Warriors of Numenor, shields

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Gil-Galad, shield (leader)
5 High Elf Warriors
3 High Elf Warriors, Elf Bows

Captain of Numenor, shield
9 Warriors of Numenor, shields

So, which list do you think is best and would you yourself change anything?

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 Post subject: Re: Last Alliance 350 pts
PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:09 am 
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I prefer the first list, Gil-Galad on a horse is a bit of a beast, that and the extra high elf are easily worth the 3 extra men of Numenor you have in the second list. I assume your high elves have shields but if they don't it's definitely worth taking them. I think you have the points left over for 5 shields if my maths is correct. Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:49 pm 
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No pints left. It's an armoured horse. Should I drop a warrior?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:41 pm 
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I think it would be better to drop the warrior and have the shields personally but try it out either way and see what you think.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:04 pm 
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Ok. I'll try it over the week-end and report back with my findings.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:41 am 
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I'd make a few of the elves king's guard and give them spears to support. Having a well placed banner will also help your survivability and killing power

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:40 pm 
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At this points level I'd proberbly go for Isildur as my leader over any of the other heroes due to cost, so maybe something like this:
Isildur on horse with shield
2 Warriors of Numenor with shield, 2 with spear and sheild, 2 with bow
175pts
High Elf captain with sheild/Erestor/gildor inglorian
3 High elves with elven bows, 2 with spear and sheild, 4 with elven blade
175pts
350pts total
Or maybe even just use unamed heroes and max out on numbers possibly.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:05 pm 
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But it has the same amount of models as list 1 and 2 less than list 2, arguably with less powerful models.

Or there's this list instead:
Gil-Galad, shield, armoured horse

Captain of Numenor, heavy armour, shield, horse, lance
1 Warrior of Numenor, banner, shield
3 Warriors of Numenor, bows
5 Warriors of Numenor, shields
2 Warriors of Numenor, spears and shields

Only 13 models, but 2 powerful heroes with 3 and 4 attacks on the charge with +1 to wound. What do you think?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:18 am 
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LordElrond wrote:
But it has the same amount of models as list 1 and 2 less than list 2, arguably with less powerful models.

Or there's this list instead:
Gil-Galad, shield, armoured horse

Captain of Numenor, heavy armour, shield, horse, lance
1 Warrior of Numenor, banner, shield
3 Warriors of Numenor, bows
5 Warriors of Numenor, shields
2 Warriors of Numenor, spears and shields

Only 13 models, but 2 powerful heroes with 3 and 4 attacks on the charge with +1 to wound. What do you think?


My personal opinion is, considering you're so set on the High King (And why not, right?) is to take the horse and lance away from the captain of Numenor, give him a few warriors and get Elven archers with spears within Gil Galad's warband. That way the Numenoreans can get stuck in with the captain, with those precious might points and the Elves can follow in as a second wave/flanking force or support the Numenoreans directly if you have a good tactical position.

Another option would be to let them wander off to a good vantage point with good visibility and have Gil Galad charge in with the Numenoreans straight away.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:51 pm 
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I'd certainly keep Gilgalad with some troops, you don't want to play a mission with random deployment and him to start on his own surronded by foes, so maybe your original list.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:29 pm 
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Zarathustra Suicuine wrote:
I'd certainly keep Gilgalad with some troops, you don't want to play a mission with random deployment and him to start on his own surronded by foes, so maybe your original list.


Very true, although I wouldn't bet against him fighting his way out of it lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:04 am 
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True, but you don't want to have to use your might so early one which you could be forced to, plus if he is on your own it makes Heroic strikes much more attractive for your opponent as they will likely then win due to the dice if they can get up to fight 9 or ten.
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