You are pretty low on numbers so I agree, remove a few knights and add more warriors. 24 would be good. Also, its an elf army so you should have as many bows as possible. With the current army you don't even have the 1/3 bows.

About you question asking who Elessar/Prekas is, do you possibly have any brothers?

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The suggestion of 24 warriors is a personal "minimum" some have to avoid your army being so small that it is easily overwhelmed. At 500 points you are a bit light on numbers. You are trying to have both a good mounted force as well as infantry as well as a few Heroes. Dividing that thin may not be a good thing unless you are experienced and know a lot about your enemy's force as well.

Additionally, it looks like much of your force's power is actually in its Knights, but you don't have a Hero to lead them (unless Rumil or Haldir are mounted???). Cav without a Hero in SBG are easy prey to experienced players. You will want to be able to call Heroic Move when Priority is against you or you could loose your entire force (or at least their horses) in a turn to a quick swarm.

I am a bit concerned about how "scattered" your model types are, especially on your infantry side. My instinct would be to pull those two archers out of the infantry force completely and give the bows to more Knights. This way you can rush your full infantry force forward at full speed rather than having it bogged down to 1/2 move just to support two archers (or else you leave the archers on their own somewhere…and two archers aren't going to do much by them selves. I would also suggest dropping Rumil or the Stormcaller and getting a Captain for your Knights (haven't really looked into Galadhrim Knights in SBG so not sure about points here).

Without direct access to the points right now, see if you can get Haldir leading 16 armored Galadhrim, most with Shield/Spear and a few with Glaives, while a Captain (with bow) is leading 8 Knights, all with Bows. Cavalry archers can still move well and shoot and can often flank and harass an enemy force like no other. And when the time is right, charge into melee. The Knights would also be enough of a threat (both as a decent sized mobile force as well as the majority of your archers) that many foes will focus heavily on them early in the game. Meanwhile, Haldir and your core infantry can rush to where they are needed (perhaps even using the Knights as bait to draw forces out).

If you go up to 750 points then throw the Stormcaller and Rumil back in with more Infantry and a couple more Knights.

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I'm also with low-numbers problem. You don't need haldir/rumil really so I would drop one of them and some of the knights to get a solid core of warriors, I would also swap the galadhrim archers for wood elf archers as D4 isn't going to make much of a difference from archery except cross-bows.

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Yep, drop a hero and 2-4 knights, and fill up the spaces with wood elves.

1,Whatfrog is an army with Galdrhims only.
2.Maermathor i dont have borthers.
so here is the new list

Haldir defender of the helsm deep 70
stormcaller 60
24 galadrhim warriors with spear and shield 240
13 galdrhim warriors with elven bow 130

500 points 39 minis 4 might

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Yep, seems solid. But it also looks a little boring to play...

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You have 1 too many bows, as there is a 33% limit. You have 24 spear + shield, but you might benefit from a few with only blades, especially as an escort for Haldir.

You can use Wood Elves with the Galadhrim, but maybe you meant you only wanted to use the Galadhrim models.

Now you are over the 1/3 bow limit. You need to get rid of one. Also, you should add some Galadhrim with elven blades. Not all of them need to have spears, and you can use the extra points to get more models. Also, it is cheaper money-wise as you can use everything from the Galadhrim box and not just part of it.

Also, have you ever seen a secret letter of Tolkien that says that Aragorn is the greatest man ever? I have been trying to find it please tell me that it is true!

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1.guys i will fix the army later
2.what you mean maermaroth?Is there a letter ARgorn is my favourite chracter from men .i disnt know tolkien wrote he is the greatest i want to see it too.

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ok here the new army
Haldir defender of the helsm deep 70
Stormacaller 60
12 Galadrhim warriors with spear and shield 120
12 Galadrhim warriors with glaive 108
guard of the Galadrhim court 12
13 Galadrhim warriors with bows 130

500 points 40 minis 4 might

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You are still over the bow limit. It only affects warriors not heroes. Otherwise, this is a really good army. You have 40 very elite models in a 500 point force.

Also I don't understand why you want Haldir defender of Helm's Deep. His banner and courage rules only come into effect with Theoden or Aragorn. I recommend switching it to the normal Haldir and giving him a bow. He will then also have better shooting. Check the main rules manual for his profile.

So what you should do is lose 1 bowman, and switch Haldir defender of Helm's Deep for the normal Haldir, and give him an Elven Bow and armor.

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ok lets see this
Haldir elf bow armour 80
Elvens stormacaller 60
12 Galdrhim warriors with glaive 108
15 Galadrhim warriors with spear and shield 150
10 Galadrhimw arriors with bow 100

498 points 39 minis 4 might

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im in agreement with Maermaethor here that this does seem similar to prekas and ellessar aragorn.

Also does no-one find it odd that so far the army lists he has come up with only constitute of models who's profiles AND points costs can be found via free PDF from GW.

ah no again with Prekas and Ellesar aragorn.what did i do?

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Oy. I'm starting to feel bad for the guy, even if he *was* prekas, he's certainly acting differently.



No, what's wrong with that? GW's made it available, if you're on a budget it's perfect. PEA -- (that is, Prekas/ElessarAragorn) -- would ask everyone to do the work for him, to provide army lists, costs and profiles for stuff GW didn't make public, endless stuff from BGiME... Plus the Aragorn/Voltor fetish was a bit creepy to think about...

who is Voltor?

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Yeah I still believe he is Prekas, but he has improved as I stated in another thread.

Now you have way less bows than what you should have. Why didn't you just do what I said? How about this:

Haldir with elf bow and armor 80
Stormcaller 60
10 Galadhrim with elven blade (glaive) 90
15 Galadhrim with spear and shield 150
12 Galadhrim with bow 110

500 points, 39 minis, 4 might

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I PREFER MY ARMY

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okay here is a new one.
haldir bow and armour 80p.
elven stormcaller 60p.
13 galadrhim warriors with glaives 115
12 galadrhim warriors with spears 120
12 galadrhim wariors with bows 120

495 39 minis 4 might

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I migh just swap 3 with spears and shields for 3 guards. You'd be a point over but I'm presuming that's tolerated.

@maelmathor: even if he is elessar, we do have brains. We'd prbably be able to tell if he's elessar anyway, no offence. And if he is eessar, I don't see anything wrong with him being here as long as he sticks to the rules.

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