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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:47 am 
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Is there any rule that would restrict me from using panic steed against the mumak and remove it from the board as a casualty? I've read the whole main rules manual on the Mumak and it says that he passes all courage tests but panic steed does not say anything about the mount having to pass any courage test to stay on the board.

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 Post subject: Re: panic steed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:13 am 
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It says in the main rules that NO magic can be cast on the Mumakil, although magic can be cast on the controller (Muhud chieftain etc) and that if he is immobilised/commanded then the mumakil cannot move further that turn and in the case of command may be moved have distance first.

Remembering that the range for immobilise is from base to base, so things can get a bit close for comfort with good old Radagast.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:48 am 
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alternative tactics vs. the Mumak then??!?!!!??!!?!?!!? all you really can do is wound him i guess.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:49 am 
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Yes you can either wound him or immobilise/command the driver. If you Command the driver, then it won't trample his own models as per rules of Trampling it is the controlling player of the Mumak who can choose to trample a friendly model or not (and the enemy casting Command doesn't count as controller - he only gets to move the model). It's not hard to deal with a Mumak - if you get priority vs it and it's close, then you just swamp it with models, including 1 with F5+ and it suffers several wounds. Before that you need to take care of shooting the commander, if that happens it won't even trample you because you'll always be first with heroic moves.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:23 pm 
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Mor-galad of Greenwood wrote:
alternative tactics vs. the Mumak then??!?!!!??!!?!?!!? all you really can do is wound him i guess.


Stay out of range with a strong, mounted hero then wait for the opportunity to charge. It only has fight 4 after all.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:40 pm 
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spuds4ever wrote:
Mor-galad of Greenwood wrote:
alternative tactics vs. the Mumak then??!?!!!??!!?!?!!? all you really can do is wound him i guess.


Stay out of range with a strong, mounted hero then wait for the opportunity to charge. It only has fight 4 after all.



F5 is not tough with Elves (read: every model in the army). Guards of the Galadhrim Court are F6! And I think Legolas is a must.

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 Post subject: Re: panic steed
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:28 am 
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The mumakil isn't difficult to beat. You can easily pin it down with cavalry, allowing your infantry to get closer. Use heroic moves if you lose priority, and you can reduce it to nothing in no time.
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