SBG: Heroic move

fracas · **Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:49 am

does the hero declaring a heroic move must be the first to move model wise? or can other models participating in the heroic move before him as long as the 6" rule is adhered to?

Alzenrider · **Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:22 am

From what I know, its the later.

hithero · **Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:46 am

He has to move first as you have to complete a models turn before moving on to the next.

Ukfreddybear · **Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:58 pm

Exactly. If he shouts 'with me' he has to move first, or how else would other troops know where he is headed? You already know that in SBG models are moved one at a time, not as a collective group so he must be the first to move since it is him calling the action. It makes it all the more important on how you deploy your troops as he can't leapfrog over a front line for example. A strategy battle game indeed!

Alzenrider · **Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:20 pm

Guess I was wrong all along :-X

fracas · **Posted:** Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:30 am

ukfreddybear wrote:

Exactly. If he shouts 'with me' he has to move first, or how else would other troops know where he is headed? You already know that in SBG models are moved one at a time, not as a collective group so he must be the first to move since it is him calling the action. It makes it all the more important on how you deploy your troops as he can't leapfrog over a front line for example. A strategy battle game indeed!

when you yell charge you shouldn't have to be the first to move
when you yell fall back you shouldn't be the first to move

i am not looking for real life justification or even fluff rationales
just what is the accepted play whether RAW or RAI

Dezartfox · **Posted:** Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:58 am

fracas wrote:

ukfreddybear wrote:

Exactly. If he shouts 'with me' he has to move first, or how else would other troops know where he is headed? You already know that in SBG models are moved one at a time, not as a collective group so he must be the first to move since it is him calling the action. It makes it all the more important on how you deploy your troops as he can't leapfrog over a front line for example. A strategy battle game indeed!

when you yell charge you shouldn't have to be the first to move
when you yell fall back you shouldn't be the first to move

i am not looking for real life justification or even fluff rationales
just what is the accepted play whether RAW or RAI

He's not yelling charge.. he's yelling 'with me'

If he shouts 'with me' and then stands still, no ones going to move! :rofl:

BlackMist · **Posted:** Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:31 am

Fracas wrote:

i am not looking for real life justification or even fluff rationales
just what is the accepted play whether RAW or RAI

There's been a massive discussion on this few years ago on TLA (about 50+post subject IIRC) which led to pretty much one conclusion after tying all the ends, then GT FAQ'd it this way and all major tourneys have been playing this way: Hero calls heroic move in his own move, therefore it is his turn to move, if you don't move him but move other models then you are not allowed to come back to him because his moving turn has ended (following the RAW of the most basic rules for movement). Hero calls "With Me" "as he moves" according to the rules.

fracas · **Posted:** Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:53 pm

That make sense.
Thank you

SBG: Heroic move

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