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 Post subject: Re: New Spear Support Rules
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:09 am 
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The rules for obstacles are an exception to the rule that you have to be in base contact to fight, but they don't give any indication that they allow an exception for supporting as well.

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 Post subject: Re: New Spear Support Rules
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:27 am 
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Draugluin wrote:
The rules for obstacles are an exception to the rule that you have to be in base contact to fight, but they don't give any indication that they allow an exception for supporting as well.

Yeah I see that. Shame! ;-)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:59 am 
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I'm glad it's not just me who is unsure! I've emailed GW and will let you all know the reply.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:06 pm 
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jscottbowman wrote:
Draugluin wrote:
They have to be in base contact. If they are, they can support, if not, they can not support. Simple as that.

Hmmm, yep thats Rules as Written, but there are clearly 'parallels' to be drawn from the rules on fighting across a defended obstacle...


I hate to use the "in reality" clause, because the rules stretch it in many ways, but I can't see how you would effectively support someone from behind a wall.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:36 pm 
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whafrog wrote:
jscottbowman wrote:
Draugluin wrote:
They have to be in base contact. If they are, they can support, if not, they can not support. Simple as that.

Hmmm, yep thats Rules as Written, but there are clearly 'parallels' to be drawn from the rules on fighting across a defended obstacle...


I hate to use the "in reality" clause, because the rules stretch it in many ways, but I can't see how you would effectively support someone from behind a wall.


Perhaps a house rule that pikes could reach but spears cannot as the wall is effectively one model wide say....

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:27 am 
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I had a look through the book today to double check things. It comes down to who is in the combat and I would say that it's only really the first rank. Sure the second and third with pikes contribute an attack at their fight and such but from the descriptions for a duel they aren't really involved.

That said, I'd say you need an absolutly clear shot, if either participant in the duel is even slightly in the way then good can't take it.

Also, it makes bows a serious waste of points if you cant.

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