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 Post subject: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:49 am 
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Quick question, if I shield and I also have an elven blade do I still get the 3-6 to win the duel roll (if fight values are drawn)? For example if Celeborn shields against Aragorn, and we both roll a 6 do I win the fight on a 3 -6?
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 Post subject: Re: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:33 am 
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Not 100% sure, but I presume as you're using your shield rather than a weapon you wouldn't get any of the weapon bonuses.

Sort of like saying you get Orcrist's rule when shielding with the oakenshield.

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 Post subject: Re: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:29 am 
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Is this referring to something from the new hobbit book? I thought elf blades just offered the opportunity to use a wpn with 1 or 2 hands?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:46 am 
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jdizzy001 wrote:
Is this referring to something from the new hobbit book? I thought elf blades just offered the opportunity to use a wpn with 1 or 2 hands?


Yeah they got a bonus ability in The Hobbit rulebook. Makes them more worthwhile taking...sometimes.

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 Post subject: Re: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:46 pm 
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That's good. I always felt shorted that legendary elf blades were basically hand and a half swords.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:19 pm 
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Dezartfox wrote:
Not 100% sure, but I presume as you're using your shield rather than a weapon you wouldn't get any of the weapon bonuses.

Sort of like saying you get Orcrist's rule when shielding with the oakenshield.



This is correct. No elf bonuses when shielding.

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 Post subject: Re: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:48 pm 
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which makes sense, since if you are shielding, your shield is in front of you and your sword is somewhere else.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:39 pm 
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That makes sense, thanks.
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 Post subject: Re: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:08 am 
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I would not agree with that. Most rules dont go with logic to keep the game balanced. But when you purchase an equipment ( even blade in this case) you get its bonuses unless mentioned otherwise. For example it is mentioned that with a shield equiped you cant use elven blade as 2 handed. But nowhere mentioned that you dont get its bonuses in overall.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:13 pm 
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Without referring back to the rulebook...
Yes, you will win a tied duel roll w/ tied fight value. If both parties have elven blades, then roll off...
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 Post subject: Re: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:34 pm 
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heres how i see it. if you are shielding with a shield you don't get it. if the model has a parry rule and is using a elf blade then yes it would (the twin elf hero's have this effect)
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 Post subject: Re: Shielding with an Elven Blade
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:44 pm 
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halauas wrote:
I would not agree with that. Most rules dont go with logic to keep the game balanced. But when you purchase an equipment ( even blade in this case) you get its bonuses unless mentioned otherwise. For example it is mentioned that with a shield equiped you cant use elven blade as 2 handed. But nowhere mentioned that you dont get its bonuses in overall.


You would only gain the bonus while using the Elven blade. You can't piercing strike while you use an Elven blade just because you also purchased an axe

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