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Sikano
 Post subject: Knight of Umbar and Bat swarms
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:53 am 
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Which is first, My fight value getting halved or me taking the highest from the others attacking?
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 Post subject: Re: Knight of Umbar and Bat swarms
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The bat swarm halves the FV of any enemy model in base contact during the fight phase, so it would take place both before and after you swap stats.
Example: your base fight of 5 is reduced to 3 by the bat swarm, then you copy their cave troll's fight of 6, which is then reduced to 3 because the bat swarm is still in base contact.
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 Post subject: Re: Knight of Umbar and Bat swarms
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Alright Asamu what part of Texas are you from? Lol

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 Post subject: Re: Knight of Umbar and Bat swarms
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:34 pm 
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Asamu wrote:
The bat swarm halves the FV of any enemy model in base contact during the fight phase, so it would take place both before and after you swap stats.
Example: your base fight of 5 is reduced to 3 by the bat swarm, then you copy their cave troll's fight of 6, which is then reduced to 3 because the bat swarm is still in base contact.



You made that sound really confusing.

So a cave troll charged by your bats and KOU has fight 3 and you still have 6 correct?

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 Post subject: Re: Knight of Umbar and Bat swarms
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Yes Lotbr you have it correct

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 Post subject: Re: Knight of Umbar and Bat swarms
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K. I was confused the order he made it sound. I figured OP may be to so I simplified it. Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Knight of Umbar and Bat swarms
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LordoftheBrownRing wrote:
So a cave troll charged by your bats and KOU has fight 3 and you still have 6 correct?

I assumed the OP's question was if the KoU was in combat with bat swarms and something else, and whether or not he would be able to copy their fight to ignore the bat swarm's FV reduction, in which case, the answer would be no, because the Bat swarm effect is taking place during the entire fight phase, whereas the KoU copies stats at the start of the fight.

To your question, yes, because the KoU copies the base values.
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