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 Post subject: Elrond's Horse
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:39 pm 
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Hi guys,
Can I upgrade Elrond to have a horse from the Eregion and Rivendell list? If so or not what errata or FAQ would explain it?
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No. He only has that option with Elrond's household or the White company in the Hobbit rulebooks. It was FAQ'd a while back

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:54 pm 
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I found a paragraph in the hobbit AUJ rules manual FAQ:

When picking your force, you should use the rules and points values in the Hobbit AUJ rules manual in place of those found in the sourcebooks

and the army builder has an option for a horse.

Does the Elrond profile in the hobbit AUJ "replace" the profile in the Free peoples?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:02 pm 
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Tourin TLA wrote:
Does the Elrond profile in the hobbit AUJ "replace" the profile in the Free peoples?


I thought they were completely separate...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:10 pm 
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as far as I know, I'll have to reread the faq's, but your limited to whatever wargear is avaliable to them in each list. So you could take Elrond on a Horse as a member of the White council or take Elrond Lord of the West.

As for the Eregion and Rivendell list Elrond never had the option for a Horse so far but that might change in the next round of errata's

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:26 pm 
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I found the FAQ. The answer is no. So the army builder is wrong.
Read the Hobbit AUJ FAQ under the heading good heroes.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:27 pm 
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found this in the DoS erratta

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Note that some of the profiles in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey™
rules manual will vary from those in the five sourcebooks: Mordor™,
The Fallen Realms, Moria™ & Angmar™, Kingdoms of Men and The Free
Peoples. When picking a force, you should use the rules and points
values featured in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey™ rules manual
in place of those found in the sourcebooks.

Also in the Hobbit Erratta

Q: Can Gandalf the Grey take his Cart or Shadowfax if taken in a
White Council Warband alongside Elrond on horse, Radagast the
Brown on sleigh or any other equipment combination from The Hobbit:
An Unexpected Journey™ Strategy Battle Game rules manual? (var.)
A: No, models that feature in army lists from the five sourcebooks
can only use options and wargear shown in those books. Models
that feature in army lists from either The Hobbit: An Unexpected
Journey™, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug™ or The Hobbit:
The Battle of the Five Armies™ can only use options and wargear
shown in the The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey™, The Hobbit: The
Desolation of Smaug™ or The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies™.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:33 pm 
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So for my original question: elrond doesnt get his horse.

But the white council army list is listed in the free peoples, auj, dos and bofta. So there is a little bit of confusion there.

Just to add the army builder is incorrect then.

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Yes the Army builder is wrong but as for the white council the 1 in BotFA is the main 1 now it takes precedent over the rest

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:22 pm 
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You can still take Gandalf on Cart as part of the old White council list but you have to surround him with LOTR era Heroes so you can't put him in the same White Council warband as Elrond on horse or Radagast on sleigh for example.

Essentially there are now two White Council army lists, one that can include the LOTR era profiles of the Heroes and one that can include the Hobbit era.

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